Giving the classes who needs a buff instead of nerfing the shit out of the others wasn't a option?

I stopped playing Rokke cuz i found psykfallet more fun and been hoping for some nice update for barb since then. Instead we get this after 5 months of complete silence.

"OH you have fun playing?! Let me fix that"

OH you have fun playing?! Let me fix that


And don't forget to wear sunglasses

I went on a quick hunt and tried to kill some bosses... I had extreme difficulty killing a Diroth, something I used to do easily at my level and skill level.

Unfortunately, giving power and then taking it away is frustrating, it's quite disheartening, I confess.

This will kill all the rangers, very sad.

I'm a bit confused, could you explain that deeper please ?

Supposing you just tank it from some corner to keep Diroth in your traps, right now (and compared to before) you just miss auto-ricochets on Diroth, and weapon areal damage ... which was basically useless against single target Diroth (I don't count summoned dark knights which at your level are normally a joke).

How could it make such a difference ? What do I miss ? Or do you precisely mean now DK cause you much trouble, preventing you from focusing damage to Diroth ?

Before the update, a friend (Rogue) could kill in 2 minutes (standing still and using the trap). Now it takes five minutes to kill while running and 7 minutes standing still using the trap.

Ok you confirm it, but ... alas you don't explain it, it doesn't tell us why ?

I can't get it why such a difference for just auto-ricochets missing.

There should be something else (something buggy ?) and that's why I wish getting more deeper informations.

If there is nothing else, that would indeed means ricochets were far too powerful, and nerfing them is maybe a not so absurd move (but I DO agree current nerf is inappropriate, gameplay wise).

Ilj just used Diroth as an example, killing a boss with a struggle aint the problem so we dont have to get stuck there.


Hunts tho... when 99.99% players solo hunts.
I wonder if they are reworking all HC hunts now for them beeing open landscape... Hmmm

I've always been trying to be positive and see the good in new things here in zez updates, but the focus they had this time and the extreme ridiculously harsh nerf of rangers are just....... Boinkers.

I like the overall direction of these ideas because I believe the main issue with Zezenia's balance is not simply that some subclasses are too strong, but that others are not performing according to their intended roles.

Instead of relying primarily on ranger nerfs, I think we should first address the weaknesses of subclasses such as barbarian and warlock, while improving party hunting mechanics for warriors.

1. Health Points and Mana Points

The proposed redistribution makes sense in theory, especially the idea of making warriors more durable and giving mages slightly more survivability. However, I would be careful with increasing both HP and mana for mages, since these changes accumulate significantly at higher levels and could affect PvP balance.

I would rather test the proposed values before implementing them permanently, particularly across different level ranges.

At first glance, it seems like a good proposal.

2. Paladin aggro spell

I strongly support giving paladins a spell that pulls nearby monsters toward them. Warriors struggle to compete with ranged classes when hunting because they need to stay close to their targets and cannot kite monsters while dealing melee damage.

A controlled aggro spell that pulls up to five monsters into the eight surrounding tiles could improve their hunting efficiency and encourage more team hunts without directly increasing their damage.

3. Barbarian two-handed weapon effect

This is also a promising idea. Barbarians should feel like powerful melee damage dealers and an additional auto-attack effect against nearby monsters could help reinforce that identity.

I like the proposed trade-off involving weapon enchantments, alike to areal arrow on ranger weapons. However, the proc chance, number of targets and additional damage would need proper testing to prevent this effect from becoming mandatory or excessively strong.

4. Warlock AoE improvements

I would prioritize expanding Cross of Annihilation's area before changing Life Drain into an AoE spell. Increasing Cross's coverage could make warlock hunting more efficient without necessarily increasing its damage against a single target or making its sustain too strong.

Life Drain could still be considered later if testing shows that warlock needs additional improvements.

5. Conclusion

My main point is that improving weaker subclasses should come before assuming that nerfing stronger ones is the only solution.

Rangers have already received several improvements to their AoE capabilities over time, after previously struggling with them. Meanwhile, barbarian and warlock should be able to compete more effectively in PvE according to their expected defensive and offensive capabilities

That doesn't mean rangers should remain untouched regardless of their actual performance. If a specific mechanic is genuinely overtuned, it should still be addressed. But I would prefer targeted adjustments over broad nerfs, combined with meaningful improvements to the subclasses that are falling behind.

The goal should not be to make every subclass deal the same damage or gain the same EXP/hour in every situation. It should be to make each subclass viable, distinct and desirable for different reasons.

Buffing underwhelming subclasses while preserving class identity would be a much healthier long-term direction for Zezenia's balance.

Hi everyone, has anyone encountered this problem? I should add that updating drivers and compatibility modes don't help. This is a problem with older laptops.

Nerfing only “broken” classes and it doesn’t solve balance..... it just drags everyone down and often makes the game less fun and slower overall!!!

If some subclass is lagging behind, then buffing it to a reasonable baseline is simply correcting imbalance, not power creep! Real balance is about convergence of viable options, not equalizing everything by reduction......

Besides that, most of the community agrees that only two of the seven subclasses are currently bad in PvE (warlock and barbarian). So there's no point in nerfing the others . . ...