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Mordac
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8th January 2023 14:36:55

I sincerely hope an update comes, and not a nerfdate. No more ruining what's good, improve the other classes
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Pharos
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8th January 2023 14:44:08

Quoting Invoker:
Quoting Godzilla:
Quoting Invoker:
Quoting Godzilla:
Afegao Bolado took top exp yesterday, 203kk exp in a day on 1x on a level 250 pyromancer. He took 50 levels in 3 days. Go on and get it done on any other vocation, you cant.

Ive played the seasonal server on a pyromancer and peaked 290kk experience in a day, i know for a fact that takes atleast 10hours to gain that experience. It got to a point where i nearly reached 1kkk experience in one week, thats roughly 500 -> 530 in a week. Go on any other vocation and do that, you cant.

During the double experience event i took 600kk experience in 3 days, hunting 2 hours a day.
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I would like to see any1 getting that amount of experience. Again, you cant.
Pyromancers broke the game and will continue to so so until it gets deleted.



Yes, Pyromancer is doing a very high solo exp, however this exp, was after some elite, I have 40 lvl less, and was doing 40kk-hr, in double, would give 80kk in pharos!
But the point is, pyromancer and barbarian get almost the same exp/hour, obviously, there are kaves that are good for each class!
A hardcore portal of Hellish Magus, Archangel, Gladiator wouldn't be a bad idea!

But in my point of view, taking strength from a class, just because it stands out solo, would discourage those who play pyromancer and barbaro, why not make the other classes a little better?

Increase the area damage of shaman- marksman- rogue and warlock, would be a good thing!

Yeah my point is, i never hunt without using the beastiary. So elites are very common. Usually i am hunting there with Aros to help him level quicker, i know that hunting with anybody is lowering my experience per hour. Even with duo hunting i get 42.5kk an hour, thats after 2 hours of hunting so its not "after some elites".

Creating more hardcore spawns to help other classes will not help, i can hunt every spawn in the game, not a single spawn ingame where I cant go where a barbarian can go. I would love to see new spawns but every spawn will just be like that for a pyromancer.

Really all i do is inferno -> meteor shower -> advanced soulfire or fire rain (depending on the monsters) -> strong healing. And repeat.
Ive got 36% mr, 14% lifesteal meaning im tank and heal full hp after my combo. Which means i dont heal for only 2 seconds.
In reality that looks like this, i kite "all" physical damage while i load my combo. When i load my last damage spell i rush back in all the monster. I am prepared to take much damage because after my 3rd attack spell i heal back to full hp, when my inferno hits, im back to full hp. Meaning i can instantly start loading inferno again as i dont need to heal. Basicly its timing movements and rushing in and out between loading combos. I also leave monsters low hp, im always targetting higher hp monsters, so i never miss meteor shower.

Ive played my pyromancer for many years and all i go for is how do i get the best xp possible in any spawn. Try hunting like I said above and itll be alot better. Hardcore dks is the best xp at my level, roughly 50/57kk an hour. After level 650 hardcore dks will still be around 50/60kk an hour but hardcore devils -2 is slighly better, 55/65kk an hour. I can remember santa Amanda reaching 67kk an hour. (When he was around 700 level, i dont know his current exp/hr)
Note, these numbers are on 2x exp (pharos)

-godzilla



Yes, I understood your point, and it really is a good one!
But don't you think that taking away the strength of the class won't change much? Mage that hits in area, in every mmorpg, has its benefits, and we all know that the more monsters on the screen, the better it is!
I imagine that for my level, I might have a little more hours in the hardcore dk portal than you, since ely is 1x, and I say with priority that I still miss some meteor shower! But you are right.
All high level pyromancers have already taken advantage of this, that's why I said about putting more area damage in the other classes, it would become more attractive to play!
I myself would like to play Rogue, but the exp/hour is extremely low, solo! In team, I can do around 13,5kk/hour, this in Elysium (lvl 370)

One solution could be to remove some Dracolich,Dark Knight from the hardcore portal (just an idea).


Removing bugs from respawn to lower a pyromancer's xp is nerfing all classes... I believe the best option would be to change the damage of spells and inferno become one of the spells with the lowest damage of the class.

Regarding more respawns, they should really take advantage of the animals you already have in the game and create hardcores or group respawns.

Imagine a Devil hunt with Volcanic, it would be much stronger than any of those in the update. (Just an example of hunt)
Erfort
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8th January 2023 16:29:58

The update seems to be very poor. The game is completly unbalanced for years and this is very demotivating to even login and leave depot as warlock or any other single target character. The thing you should focus on is balancing classes. The difference between pyromancer and other subclasses is ridiculous. Until the major balancing update game is pretty much unplayable if we want to play fair. I just hope you are not going to open a new server before those changes because once again pyromancers are gonna greatly outlevel everyone else in no time.

Ciao >:(
Paladin Dark
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Elysium
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8th January 2023 16:49:15

so easy to balance subclass all the staff have to do is remove the aoe spells and create new single target spells
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8th January 2023 16:53:02 (Last edited 8th January 2023 16:57:35)

Quoting Erfort:
just hope you are not going to open a new server before those changes because once again pyromancers are gonna greatly outlevel everyone else in no time.

Ciao >:(


Stop writing lies, instead of this write facts... Atlas won by paladin, Everest won by barb... and I bet, that if on seasonal there would be death loss penalty, the advantage of warriors would be much bigger.

Make us a favour and "Ciao"
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8th January 2023 16:59:14

Quoting Paladin Dark:
so easy to balance subclass all the staff have to do is remove the aoe spells and create new single target spells


When You do that dont forget to remove barb and pala aoe spells too.
Odama Apelao
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8th January 2023 18:43:18 (Last edited 8th January 2023 18:46:11)

Unfortunately, as always, the first alternative that some choose is to nerf.

But you know that even nerfing pyromancer your subclass will still be horrible (if you are not a paladin or barbarian), it would be better to improve classes that do little exp/h. Put arrows with area damage for rangers, put some better spells with area damage for shaman and warlock.
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8th January 2023 19:14:11

Quoting Hood Of Healing:
Unfortunately, as always, the first alternative that some choose is to nerf.

But you know that even nerfing pyromancer your subclass will still be horrible (if you are not a paladin or barbarian), it would be better to improve classes that do little exp/h. Put arrows with area damage for rangers, put some better spells with area damage for shaman and warlock.


These days you level up way too fast anyway. Imo it should go the other way
Paladin Dark
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8th January 2023 19:19:19

I don't know if people like this idea
but to maintain a balance between the subclasses it would be great well my idea is to create 3 new subclasses but they would be more like evolutions
1.blade master would be like a combination between paladin and barbarian but to access it level 100+ 500k of money is required
how would the spells be? Well, I say that they just put all the spells of the 2 subclasses together

2.soul master would be the combination of the 3 subclass of mages
the spells well you just have to put all the spells of all the subclass of mages

3.assassin would be for ranger a perfect combination between marksman and rogue
the spells would be all the spells of the 2 subclass of ranger + 4 or 3 more spells of aoe
Ht Savage
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8th January 2023 19:49:10 (Last edited 8th January 2023 19:50:30)

Quoting Silencerxz:
Everest won by barb...


Everest won by barbarian because i choose to let him win. If Luke Random Pk decided to continue leveling I wouldve continued. Stop writing lies yourself. Pyromancer is superior in any way. There is no class even coming close to its exp per hour, period.

The only reason why there are as many warriors as there is, is because its easy to bot. Not because its better.

Yours,

Dynasol
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