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Elysium
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Mage
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31st January 2023 16:01:37 Quoting Szczebrzeszyn: Quoting Godzilla: Delete pyromancer. Dont you realise everything is overpowered on pyro but not on other classes? All changes to nerf pyro will hurt other classes more than itll actually nerf pyro. Why there are more warriors than other classes is simply because of cavebot. Stop using that as an argument. You cant buff other classes to do the same as pyromancer since itll only make things worse, as staff mention before, zezenia had no intentions in having level 600+ already and will not be ready for it in a long time. (When theres 1 or 2 updates a year atleast) When pyro is gone, itll al be alot easier to balance. I cant wait for the next adjustments to classes in hope to close the gap by another 10% ![]() -godzilla Just because Santa Amanda got a lot of level with pyromancer, you want to nerf the class! The other classes should be improved, and you know it! Just because your enemy has dedicated himself to getting a lot of level, doesn't mean you should ask for it! The balance of the classes, should be improving the classes, not decreasing class damage! And each class has a function in the game, pyromancer only gives damage, as well as warlock, which is now much more useful with the cross 2sec colldown (but should cost + mana), is beating similar to Pyromancer, and does not spend mana with mana shield, and not with spells, in general! But I understand that the staff wants to make the classes less independent, because with the warlock+pyro buff, the pyromancer will beat almost the same thing it was beating now (solo), so it will be viable to use all classes in team now, I hope you are not selfish and want to hunt alone! Now, the staff also have to help and make more respaws like ice thrower, that can hold 2-3 high levels The staff have literally said they wont buff the other classes to much, so the only option is yet again more nerfs. It still baffles me that they're not striving for balance whilst keeping some character uniqueness. |
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Everest
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31st January 2023 18:02:07
You will have only scripters playing that game mainly on warriors. +1
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Elysium
Level 10
Warrior
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1st February 2023 03:34:10
CM Mercury, will the next changes be available in this week?
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Pharos
Level 363
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1st February 2023 13:43:32 (Last edited 1st February 2023 13:45:32)
Theres no point arguing with Silencer, so ill just ignore your comments since it makes zero sense what youre tryng to say.
@Szczebrzeszyn, Login on the test server next time; Get somewhat same skilled ranger subclasses and make it level 500 via NPC, compare the difference between the two classes with 30minutes of hunting. The gap will not be bigger than 10% in experience and they still have their own unique playstyle. Get somewhat same skilles warrior subclasses and make it level 500 via NPC, compare the difference between the two classes with 30minutes of hunting, the gap with test server changes will put paladin slighty above barbarian in terms of experience. Ofcourse this should be changed and i believe it will. Get somewhat same skilles mage subclasses and make it level 500 via NPC, compare the difference between the three classes with 30minutes of hunting, youll notice that pyromancer will make almost triple the exp a shaman makes, more than double a warlock does and more than double any other class-subclass. The activity of current pyromancers isnt low because theyre not broken, its because the game is semi-dead and warriors are easy to bot and thats what current playerbase is doing most of the time. The pyromancers that do play, currently santa amanda and some elysium pyros by the looks of it, will 100% get way more experience than anyone if they put the same amount of time spend hunting. Those who say they outskill their pyromancers on rangers/warrios on low level are doing something wrong, i'd like to see some numbers on comparison to build that statement (i wont believe it otherwise) Edit; Bot activity can easily be fought by more active staff members. Ask Dynasol, Ask Santa Amanda, As Luke Ramdon Pk, myself, theyll 100% tell you that pyromancer is super superior in every way but PvP. So yeah, they should 100% listen to build up feedback by people who spend time on getting that data or have been actively playing the class for months/years. |
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1st February 2023 14:37:48 (Last edited 1st February 2023 14:43:04)
The staff has nerfed the classes so many times and doesn't realize the bitter taste that is left for those who play these classes, they may even realize it but will pretend not to. Is it so hard to just buff the classes that need it? The most unbelievable thing is to see so many warriors asking to nerf a mage subclass while they make much more exp than the rangers, warlocks, and shamans. Perhaps the solution is to remove all AOE spells
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Elysium
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1st February 2023 15:16:13 (Last edited 1st February 2023 15:16:43)
Zero sense have your proposals like making stop running boulder throwers, because they are too hard for the most easiest class to play - paladin <--- that is saying everything about your logic
The same with your absurd proposals like nerf or delete pyromancer. On top of that you are accusing community: "bot and thats what current playerbase is doing most of the time." (even when the CM on one thread has written not to accuse anyone, just ctrl+r) while you are using only arrows to move while hunting. (if you accuse other I allowed myself to do that too). you are pathetic and toxic And dont write false propaganda like "ask dynasol and myself" because you are dynasol which you admit and there are screeshots (or maybe you share account too much and its hard to say which owner is writing). Give the community a present and dont write absurd on forum (probably you'll still be writing e mails to Staff because you have some strange issues). #stop nerfing pyro #make pyro as good blocker as paladin = then nerve pyro #make boulder thrower stop running for godzilla pally (its too hard to hunt them for him) |
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Pharos
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1st February 2023 19:11:09 (Last edited 1st February 2023 19:11:28) Quoting Administration: (...) - Decreased cooldown of Cleave to two (2) seconds. Reduced damage by 15%. (...) Consider leaving 3 seconds cooldown while incrasing damage by 27,5% to maintain the same ratio without forcing players to spam keys like madmans. |
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1st February 2023 20:11:20 Quoting Luisa Rodrigues: Quoting Administration: (...) - Decreased cooldown of Cleave to two (2) seconds. Reduced damage by 15%. (...) Consider leaving 3 seconds cooldown while incrasing damage by 27,5% to maintain the same ratio without forcing players to spam keys like madmans. Hurrah, finally someone who does think like me, I ended doubting it was possible ![]() Good proposal, probably from a manual player like me ![]() |
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1st February 2023 20:48:00
The main problems I read from your message are "the game is dead" and "paladins are easy to bot." The easy suggestion of more staff is actually the hardest. It cost constant money and I haven't heard that there's been an era where bots were tackled well.
If pyromancers are as OP as you say they would have surpassed everyone else. Not only today in "the game is dead era", but also last year, 5 years ago and 15 years ago. That would result in them dominating the highscores which is simply not the case. Seasonal servers same thing. Everyone starts equal. Quite some people are super active. Experienced players. Yet pyromancers do not have double the experience of everyone else. They are not even dominating the highscores. So either they are not overpowered at level 0-400 or nobody knows how to play them making them being this strong a must to be viable. |
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Pharos
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2nd February 2023 00:11:54 Quoting Robin Shoot: The main problems I read from your message are "the game is dead" and "paladins are easy to bot." The easy suggestion of more staff is actually the hardest. It cost constant money and I haven't heard that there's been an era where bots were tackled well. If pyromancers are as OP as you say they would have surpassed everyone else. Not only today in "the game is dead era", but also last year, 5 years ago and 15 years ago. That would result in them dominating the highscores which is simply not the case. Seasonal servers same thing. Everyone starts equal. Quite some people are super active. Experienced players. Yet pyromancers do not have double the experience of everyone else. They are not even dominating the highscores. So either they are not overpowered at level 0-400 or nobody knows how to play them making them being this strong a must to be viable. Just to give you an idea on how many people bot, 4738+ bot subscriptions have been bought since the introduction of the bot. Each subscription lasts a month, you cant argue with those numbers. 40 active people on all worlds? Some might have multiple bot accounts, its safe to say nearly everyone uses a bot. And this is the only "known" bot, simple healing bots that players can create themselfves are not even included. And honestly, i dont care for sharing this information. Ya'll are too scared to admit that i am right. Most of you disagree with nearly everything i say without any backed-up feedback. In my history of playing this game there were only 2 GMs that used to get paid, and that was very minimal. (all others get paid with ingame currency or do it completely free) The reason highscores are dominated with warriors is because theyre easy to play and easy to bot. And honestly, the majority of pyromancer in fact dont know how to play pyromancer. This weekend ill show u guys live on twitch how to play a pyromamcer, for everyone to see how dominating a Pyromancer is in everything but PvP. |