I am just wondering why Cm is ignoring people that have some constructive arguments, and sometimes answer or quote totally stupid posts.
Anyway I want to join action
#Stop nerfing Pyro

when will the next test server come out? ²

Cope, they cant deal much about good arguments.

Lets see the next Test Server, if they will gather some good proposes, or if they'll do a little changes in perspective about the old Test server, like always.

Delete pyromancer. Dont you realise everything is overpowered on pyro but not on other classes?

All changes to nerf pyro will hurt other classes more than itll actually nerf pyro.

Why there are more warriors than other classes is simply because of cavebot. Stop using that as an argument.

You cant buff other classes to do the same as pyromancer since itll only make things worse, as staff mention before, zezenia had no intentions in having level 600+ already and will not be ready for it in a long time. (When theres 1 or 2 updates a year atleast)

When pyro is gone, itll al be alot easier to balance. I cant wait for the next adjustments to classes in hope to close the gap by another 10%

-godzilla

You can't ignore the cavebot argument when there are so many people cavebotting. Deleting/nerfing the only vocation who can actually challenge the warriors will cause even more warriors in the top levels. Especially now they will buff paladin and are considering buffing barbarian as well. How can that be healthy?

The main issue people have with pyro seem to be HC DK which can be addressed easily. Prior to that pyromancer isn't that godlike solo. My marksman at 250 can get 80-90% of the exp as my pyro at 230. Asked Invoker and at 330 his barbarian outperformed his pyro as well. Our pyros are also more likely to die and lose exp.
They do shine in teamhunts though and so do paladins.

In Pharos there are 21 players online now and 0 pyromancers. Can be coincidence, but like people said: pyro isn't good in pvp due to lack of single target damage. The pvp argument is valid given that Pharos has many more rogues than Elysium. Could also say delete marksman since they get much more exp than rogues and this update will increase that gap.

If you want to delete a vocation it should be the cavebotting paladin which breaks all the balance and causes there to be too many people who are higher than there's content for by leveling themselves and boosting their teammates (pyro the most). Yet we still have the exhaust penalty which only hurts the manual players by a lot. If they are afraid for too much spam by bots, make the penalty 5%.

Delete permanently botters, delete paladins because they are the most bot friendly subclass, decrease number of monsters on hardcore dk and hc devil, and make stop those nasty boulder throwers running away, so godzilla's pally can bot there more easily.
I hope nobody take serious this strange guy... But as a manifest delete your pyro and stay at your pally, but dont hunt too hardcore on him, because if you make too much exp on him you will realize you need to delete that pally too.
#stop nerfing pyro

that's why I stopped playing Zezen, every change seems to be so much work and the introductory update consists only in irrelevant things that bring nothing to the game and only nerf.
It makes me only retired.
As a paladin 10 years of skilling 187 meles and when the crit does not enter, the weapon hits like a child, in the previous planned update of class balancing, was planned to increase the damage from the weapon itself by 10-15% depending on the skill. Instead of focusing on the update where you will improve various classes without nerfing others (which makes them want stop to play - and the population is very poor anyway) and introducing quests for a lot of monster spawns, the ability to upgrade weapons, items, something that will introduce a nice rpg atmosphere for 1-3 years, you do all the time shitty updates and you are surprised that there are no people :D

I chose a paladin because of the comfort and aoe around me desolation spell, and then you completely change the mechanics of the game, without the possibility of changing the subclass, for me it was a huge blow, it's like I've been playing e.g. a mage all my life and suddenly you take my wand off and I have to throw nails :D

start thinking in a smart way

NERFING IT'S NOT A WAY

Just because Santa Amanda got a lot of level with pyromancer, you want to nerf the class!
The other classes should be improved, and you know it!
Just because your enemy has dedicated himself to getting a lot of level, doesn't mean you should ask for it!

The balance of the classes, should be improving the classes, not decreasing class damage! And each class has a function in the game, pyromancer only gives damage, as well as warlock, which is now much more useful with the cross 2sec colldown (but should cost + mana), is beating similar to Pyromancer, and does not spend mana with mana shield, and not with spells, in general!

But I understand that the staff wants to make the classes less independent, because with the warlock+pyro buff, the pyromancer will beat almost the same thing it was beating now (solo), so it will be viable to use all classes in team now, I hope you are not selfish and want to hunt alone!
Now, the staff also have to help and make more respaws like ice thrower, that can hold 2-3 high levels

Totally agree with Mamrot, Silencerxz, Sanoman.
If the nerve of pyromancer is going to happen, probably I will join Mamrot on his retirement, because the things aren't going in good way. And little advice for Staff, dont listen to one id@#$ that claims how incredible exp/h is doing, ask other 300 - 550 lvl's pyromancers or come visit our hunts. Or just look at the highscores and compare it to warriors daily/week exp.
Just want to show other case, if warriors want to make the same exp/h like 5-6 pyromancers in the game, as a 400 pyromancer I want to make the same stuff as 400 paladin or barb, I want to go and block Wanu while still being able to attack him, I want to go easily like 400 pala/barb to escaped prisoner, lastly if I will trap, I want to block at least 5 mighty werebears and be able to survive it.
Improve other sublclasses that really need it, rogue shaman marksman and warlock, then adjust it. Dont nerve, because soon You will have only scripters playing that game mainly on warriors.