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Silencerxz
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29th January 2023 15:02:57 (Last edited 29th January 2023 16:10:37)

Briareu 785 Warrior (Barbarian)
Beelzebozz 777 Warrior (Paladin)
Zou Healer 667 Warrior (Paladin)
Ares 498 Warrior (Paladin)
Salute 491 Mage (Shaman)
Kosiarz All 455 Warrior (Paladin)
Luana 454 Warrior (Barbarian)
Mema Denkaz 403 Ranger (Marksman)
Le Onardoox 392 Warrior (Barbarian)
Diaax 365 Ranger (Marksman)
Hajime Hanafusa 359 Warrior (Paladin)
Airtrack 354 Mage (Shaman)
Askja 339 Warrior (Paladin)
Malelyy 312 Warrior (Paladin)
Dondergod 295 Warrior (Barbarian)
Luiisa Marques 278 Warrior (Barbarian)

Elysium right now, ppl above 250 lvl...
Yeah pyro should be nerfed, too many pyro's online atm making insane exp...

#Stop nerfing Pyro's


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Briareu 785 Warrior (Barbarian)
Beelzebozz 777 Warrior (Paladin)
Zou Healer 667 Warrior (Paladin)
Vagn 550 Warrior (Barbarian)
Ares 498 Warrior (Paladin)
Salute 491 Mage (Shaman)
Kosiarz All 455 Warrior (Paladin)
Luana 454 Warrior (Barbarian)
Mema Denkaz 403 Ranger (Marksman)
Le Onardoox 392 Warrior (Barbarian)
Diaax 365 Ranger (Marksman)
Hajime Hanafusa 359 Warrior (Paladin)
Strong Alves 359 Warrior (Barbarian)
Airtrack 354 Mage (Shaman)
Locuts 338 Mage (Pyromancer)
Malelyy 312 Warrior (Paladin)
Dondergod 296 Warrior (Barbarian)
Luiisa Marques 279 Warrior (Barbarian)

I dont know Locuts - but he is not the "exp monster" comparing him to other subclasses that have 340 lvl
I am pretty sure that nerf will still help him to make godly amount of exp
ohhh wait... he is not even in first 50 in week exp... ( no offence to that great player of course)
Nerve
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Elysium
Level 243
Mage
29th January 2023 15:23:38 (Last edited 29th January 2023 15:24:16)

Quoting CM Mercury:
Hi,

We will try to publish another Test Server as soon as possible with new changes.

We are still trying to find a suitable balance between different classes and try to make most of the people happy. It's an impossible task to please every player since we have to nerf one class but we are trying to keep it as minimal as possible and work on other solutions to hinder the experience/hour gap. I would still like to remind everyone that the main goal is to just slightly lower the exp gaps instead of closing them completely. This is just the first step towards a better balance.

-Mercury


With the comments made by the staff I think you should stop using the word balance, it gives off the wrong impression (we cannot just randomly change the meaning of a word), balance in its definition means something is equal and from the posts that is not going to be close.

What confuses me is why you would not want to work for balance, you said "Sub classes should and will be kept different, the idea is not to make each class similar to each other." which actually shocks me even more, this implies you think getting things balanced will mean everything is the same and thats actually scary.

Just for a few examples look at World of Warcraft.
Warcraft logs
They have 25 different classes of which are all different to each other in terms of rotation yet they're still within 20% of each other.

You have Tibia, it has 4 classes all of which are different in rotation yet they're balanced within 20% of each other.
So to say that getting balance would result in all classes being the same is not only false but just puts off a image that the person doing the "balance" has no idea what to do.

The sad thing about Zezenia is you guys continue to nerf something update after update and that is the reason we're at the point we are now.
Mata Jefes
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Pharos
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29th January 2023 15:24:04

The many warriors in the top is due to botting obviously.....
Lotis Efiro
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Elysium
Level 438
Ranger
29th January 2023 15:47:20 (Last edited 29th January 2023 15:54:55)

It isn't balancing. These are just incidental changes from my point of view. As a ranger I'm going to get Ricochet. A feature which won't scale to getting levels. As a Silencerxz said don't nerf pyro... Make other classes stronger. And give paladin and barbarian more dmg. They need be improved first....:/:/
Pelaios
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Elysium
Level 157
Ranger
29th January 2023 16:52:44

They should also improve the damage of the rogue spells and reduce the time of Hellish Volley to 2s, 3s is the same stupid 4s but with a second less

It is time to improve the rogue yes or yes
Jaroslaw Kaczynski
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Elysium
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Warrior
29th January 2023 20:20:10

Quoting Silencerxz:
And now it's time to make a last sentention about the changes that ( I hope they will not be) will be implemented.

I have a simple question for pyro, rangers, shaman and warlock's: do You guys can block/stand while attacking, for example 4 murder crabs? or 3 volcanic golems? Well it was rhetorical question. You can't. At lvl 400 pyro can easily die from 2 volcanic golems if they are close to him, I dont even want to mention if pyro would try to just block them at 1 aquare. Other mentioned vocations- the same.
And now we have warriors, which are making more exp than 4 classes, while they can block practically everything in the game. Last time 2 ice throwers combo me ( 380 pyro, full def eq tukinouu 2mres ring etc) while 380 barb can kill them easily with ice terror gratis...
So while being able to block and while blocking kill the nice stacks of monsters, pala and barb still makes better exp than the others 4 subclasses, and they are complaing that 1 subclass have possibility to make more exp/h than they does.
This is sick...

And Administration is even improving a paladin- making him the best overall subclass in every term in my opinion.
In every game its like this: the harder is to play a vocation, the better possibilities the vocation have. But not in zezenia: easy play class like paladin is making 2nd best exp at the game after your changes, they can go everywhere while making huge profit with low risk of death, and they still argue and demand to nerf pyro, because they cant do the same exp that pyro is doing... seeing non-sense like this, which is coming even into live, I am really surprised that anyone is still playing the game, except of warrior's that were full botted in the past/ are botting atm...

Want to make shaman attractive without increasing his dmg ( like You did now, because 10% dmg for shaman spells is still doing nothing) - nerf both warriors, so they cant block and hit for example 5 devils at 600 level without a healing from shaman. With ease a 600 paladin can block 5 mighty magician werebears and cleave them all the time- change that, so without shaman heal it wont possible. I am sure after that, You will see so many new shamans and those who came back to play, that You wont even imagine.

@CM Mercury
I saw that You wrote about idea of changing in future fire shield ( pyro buff). Well, think about fact, that 4 s spell of pyro now, after being nerf, deal much less dmg in range, so pyro must be close to the monster in order to deal any normal dmg.
Think about those ppl that aren't hunting hardcore dk, and sometimes even kill 1 by 1 or 1 by 2 monsters like unholy dreadlords or volcanic golems. You decreased the dmg, and if You would nerf the buff, pyro as subclass will have purpose only of killing low exp monsters at large groups (all dragons/collosal ice golem/hellish magus and demonic ents - but those with a high risk) while warriors can hunt all places that I mentioned + some nice stuff like chest geck'zahs/zards, ice throwers every kind of hardcore portal etc.

And now You are making overall nerfing of the class, because of:
Sanoman 715 pyro
Sorhte 667 pyro
Nemtor 551 pyro - (still I saw he was dying couple of times on hellish magus in last 3 weeks, so I doubt he is hunting on dc hardcore)
Sr Camarada 532 pyro
Invoker 530 pyro (in one conversation he told me, that he is making 15-18kk/h on dc hardcore while full boosts)
Cocainsana 489 pyro (not playing)
Mr Jhoni 464 pyro (not playing)
Matheuzeraa 447 pyro (probably not hunting hc dc, i saw him died last 3 times on demonic ents hellish magus and orknie archmage)


Santa Amanda 954 pyro
Nalle 633 pyro
Godzilla 573 pyro
Cristiano Lusitano 560 pyro ( died often at hc dk )
Doomsday Machine 548 pyro (only pbp purposes)
Cadeirudo 509 pyro (died often as well)
Dncr 491 pyro (not playing)
Kiritinxz 475 pyro
Ihope 471 pyro

There is less than I've expected pyro's, that could hunt on hc dk or devil hc, compared to the all warriors that have higher lvls we can see, that there is not so many pyro's... and if You decide to continue nerf pyro's, I can assure, that there will be only warriors playing that game, so You can basically remove all the rest subclass.

Instead of nerving pyro, make more attractive other 4 classes, nerve warriors in way of blocking everything at the game at full chest, so shamans will come back to the game.
If making high exp by couple of pyro's on those 2 locations (hc dk and hc devil) is so annoying for You Staff, remove 50-75% of easy monsters from hc portals, like raging curse, nocturne, dracoliche, demons in hc devil spawn. In that way You will make the exp gap much less, by nerfing pyro in way You are doing it, You affect more lvl's 300-400 than those high lvls pyro.

#Stop nerfing Pyro
Sign up Pyro's!



+1 totally
Elemental
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Elysium
Level 100
Mage
29th January 2023 20:51:51

what I'm understanding in this game is that:
We shouldn't do too much xp.
it's forbidden to make large amounts of experience for the administration, for a simple reason, they don't make much content for the game anymore, it's already stopped, the more we evolve, the more we force them to create something that they don't have the capacity to manage.
that's why they are harming other classes to "balance" the game
Aquaplay
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29th January 2023 23:35:26

when will the next test server come out?
Lul Kekw Pog
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Warrior
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30th January 2023 00:06:18

when will the next test server come out?
Aquaplay
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Elysium
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Warrior
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30th January 2023 01:04:52

Quoting Lul Kekw Pog:
when will the next test server come out?

:smartass::smartass::smartass::smartass:
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