Every respaw has a maximum exp/hour limit! I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand! A level 600 does the same exp as a lvl 800, because that is the maximum the respaw can handle! We should have kaves with more monsters and more populated, for more leveled barbarians! The game didn't keep up with the high level players got! A lot of respaw needs to be changed, increased, or made big enough! The two good respaw that exist in the game, that is not a hardcore portal, are the Ice Thrower and Orknie Archmage respaw! They are huge, we should have a big respaw like that, for the monster face of the game! Recently made a good one, with Lince Ghost, but also can not handle two high levels!

Try to set the healing lower and test it, with bushido,portal hardcore dark knight, with full boost!
Them, you tell me! Barbarian's isn't like paladin's!

Almost everyone here is saying: more AoE damage for everyone, but pyromancers. That route we would end up with a lot of wannabe pyromancers who are of course less good than the pyromancers themselves.

Would rather see buffs that make the strong points of each vocation even better.
- A ranger with way more single target dps (AoE is useless, they have the least sustain of all vocations).
- Warlock with more single target dps, better debuff and dot.
- Shaman with maybe better buffs for solo as well as more damage of course.
- For all the above monsters with incredible exp:hp ratio, but also very good healing and a spawn that would break by teamhunting. Making them mainly viable for solo single target dps.

Warriors: know too little about them. They say that the pyromancers are way too good, yet we see in the top 50:
- 19 paladins
- 11 barbarians
- 10 pyromancers
- 4 shamans
- 3 warlocks
- 3 rogue
- 0 marksman

Paladin would be unplayable, even before the cleave nerf. Yet almost half the top players are paladins and we know why. The vast majority of the level 600+ characters got there with botting for which paladins are the easiest. Being very easy to bot is the true unbalanced aspect here. Even seasonal servers aren't dominated by the godly pyromancers who are said to gain twice the exp of everyone else.

Have you noticed the top 3 are AOE classes? There is a reason for that, if you have AOE classes and Single target classes AOE will ALWAYS win.

The amount of damage a ranger would have to do single target to even come close to AOE classes would be nuts, you would have to double their auto attacks and at least double their single target spell.

When a barb can hit 5 monsters doing 1.2k to 3 and 792 to 2 = 5,184 every 2 seconds (Thats without the sweeping and melees).
Pyros doing stupid amounts and paladins doing around the same as barbarian.
Single target classes would have to be doing 3k+ damage per second to even compete.

There is a reason why big companies like World of Warcraft and Tibia have made every class have AOE, it's close to impossible to have balance otherwise.

hahahaha, gess you dont get irony. im making fun of you. sorry

Although I play pyromancer, I thought the changes were fair, I really liked the changes to warlock and ranger! Each class has its advantage and function in the game! I think now we are heading towards a good balance! We still need some bigger hunting grounds, for 3 or 4 players of higher levels, but I like the way the game is going!

Even though shaman is a support class deserve a few upgrades on some points to get a better sustain in solo hunts and a fair advance on atk spells. Shaman is really bad to hunt solo not just because his damage is low but mostly his defense is weak. Then, please staff take a look on it.

Proposal for better sustain and defense:

- Exchange extra 15 talent points of Spirituality to Healing. Healing talent is way more necessary to destinate these extra points!
- Increase to 10% negation of fortitude growth. It means +5% only, so a little improvement to fortitude growth.
- Add to Rejuvenation an effect to negate 20% of damage using mana in addition to current effects. Considering Rejuvenation is a defensive special talent thus makes sense to include some protection buff on it besides heal boost to be more attractive choice of special talent for shamans.

Proposal to upgrade atk spells:

- a 100% damage for a single ricochet to rock thrust and thunderbolt. The ricochet proposal is interesting to hold the single target style to rangers and clearly to mages too.
- Add to hailstorm an effect to hit targets 100% twice like pyro's meteor shower does. Hailstorm is an aoe and 2s cd spell in shaman combo, so ricochet does not fit for it.

Partly. I agree that AoE will beat single target damage in a normal environment. Hence the suggestion came in combination with a hunting environment where single target vocations would thrive more than normally.

If paladins wouldn't have cleave nor swipe and instead have their single target damage doubled they would still be king. When they bot 8 hours a day for 365 days a year you simply do not beat that. That's proven by the fact that they would already be gaining only half the experience of pyromancers, yet are represented twice as much in the top 50. Or with other words 4 times more often than you would expect.
In the long term balancing would only change how the remaining non warrior spots are divided in the highscores. Still a good thing to do.

"If paladins wouldn't have cleave nor swipe and instead have their single target damage doubled they would still be king. When they bot 8 hours a day for 365 days a year you simply do not beat that." The problem heres is that your taking the wrong as standard. You cant use botting as example, its forbidden and staff is doing a great job against it. Just think about the pyromancers that uses bot and rangers too, we all have seen those, even in live gameplay.

About the top 50 exp. Your looking at very old accounts. Pay attention to recent numbers, to whats happening now --> a level 700 pyro making bouble the exp of a level 900 paladin, unnaceptable.

The ranger problem is getting fixed, so i trully expect to see some rangers gaining more exp (hope your the one ), but.... i remember back when Salutuj got level 500 on his old rogue without screaming at forum. Salutuj and Auronel .

Those MMORGP, like zz, tibia, pxg... theres no secret, want to level up? GO HUNT.

Also speaking of the bot users having a huge advantage. Could the exhaust penalty on spells finally be removed?
People who play manually and spamm spells too fast get an additional exhaust of 20-25% as penalty whereas those casting with a bot do not.

@Melecossauro Rex
I only know what happened the last 3-4 years, but prior do that, did paladins used to be way better and pyromancers way worse? That's the only other thing that could explain the warriors being over represented in the highscores.

Only hopped back on last week since half a year or so, so not that much up to date about the recent anti cavebotting measures. Prior to that and when you had to believe the players almost everyone was botting in which case it's not a wrong standard. I didn't got checked a single time playing for over a year at Elysium and only twice at Atlas in a manner that would allow any bot to trigger alarms. Hence cavebotting would be possible as long as you are in the same room as your pc.

Extremely low player average even with the "updates", have you ever stopped to think that these updates have zero impact on the interest in the game? And that there should be better plans to encourage players to play..

Years of releasing small updates that do not impact the game, this has already proved to be irrelevant.
It should have a big update, add 2 new cities, 4 hardcore portals, a difficult quest that requires 15 players 600+ to accomplish, 4 to 5 new respaws... What is released, players play for a few days and it's back to old routine.

@Administration