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Biell Griffin
Player

Elysium
Level 256
Mage
30th September 2015 10:12:49

And just correct something elusium is a land of paladins, and in the mage case its a land of shamans, just research before talk...
Biell Griffin
Player

Elysium
Level 256
Mage
30th September 2015 10:22:38 (Last edited 30th September 2015 10:24:28)

Its easy come here and talk anything u want, so why 90% of mages on elisium r shamans???? If pyro r so goood????? Talk with statistics let me see.... i agree with u than warlock is not a stronger class but in non pvp my friends pyro is not the stronger class that is why there alot of shamans look how many exp bistocao can make, and i am not atacking shamans because of that... i think its cool the way than it is... maybe some help on warlock will help, what do u think? 😊
Biell Griffin
Player

Elysium
Level 256
Mage
30th September 2015 10:29:59

Baltas if is non pvp why we need to hit on party? That didnt change anything my friend, if u were playing here u will see, i can make alone 790k h, on boar, with a bloker i will make less, that is the best exp i can make and is not even with someone. Is alone my friend... i dont undertand what r trying to say... pyro was always like that hiting on area, with party or not... lol all my life when i was complening about be pyro people were telling me than its my problem choose pyro, now the way than u said look like pyro is a good, when the truth is : probaly i will start make a little bit more money( and is not for the party thing, its because is not so expensive to hunt anymore) and not waste like i was ALWAYS... and some people will not say no to me if i need help in a task...
Mighty Balmor
Player

Elysium
Level 406
Warrior
30th September 2015 10:58:12

Quoting Baltas:
Not so many people wants to hunt with warlocks tbh. I make okay dmg on single target, but it costs.
Pyros in pvp worlds were always hitting their party members, so elysium is now a land of pyros. Really cheap in party hunt. With 375mana you will be able to hit 3-8 monsters with blocker. So at lvl 220 you would make 3-8k damage. While same lvl warlock/shaman makes 900dmg with 300-335 mana.

Its obvious, that hunting monsters solo 1 by one 1 pyro might be a little bit more expensive than other class. But its kinda rare occasion. Even talking about stronger monsters like nocturnes (if u kill one by one, u kill ghouls with inferno) while warlock gotta aim whirlwind. If you hunt ice colos, u kill ice golems with inferno, when warlock gotta kill them with single spells.
Not to speak about mid lvl monsters like dracoliches, xyo dragons etc, where a high lvl can easily lure 2 at once.

If you speak about lvl 100 and lower, okay, go for rcs, dreadlords etc. Still many places to be cheaper than other mages.

To sum up, in pvp world pyro is just the strongest, most tanky and kinda cheap.
In none pvp pyros are the strongest, the tankest and the cheapest of all mage sub classes


To me a good way to fix this would be a damage reduction when pyromancer hit many creatures for example if they hit more than 4 the damage would be reduced to 60 % of max dmg
Biell Griffin
Player

Elysium
Level 256
Mage
30th September 2015 11:52:31 (Last edited 30th September 2015 11:54:47)

Than nobody includung myself will play with a pyri mancer never again, there is no pyro and warlocks on elysium if that happen the fel guys who play, basicly only me and hildo will stop play... i think wsrlock needs to be a little stronger on his buff and that is all... man its easy talk about someone else when u are not in the same skin.... vulcam had a chance to play in my char and he said he will never be pyro because its to weak... and no make good exp... all the clases can make 600k h easy for me only with dire boar i can make that...
So please lets be concentrate on the real problem, if pyro is to good why there id only me and hildo playing?
Even u coxinha told me many times than if i choose pyro, that was my problem...... now u sound like hipocrit
Biell Griffin
Player

Elysium
Level 256
Mage
30th September 2015 12:30:16

Baltas i think and agree with u than warlocks needs to be better, but u for sure knows that better than me because u r the high lvl warlock.....

Man sense i start to play coxinha and everyone on elysium knows all the sufer than i past, with people laughing on my face for all the wastes than i always got, many times giving up... many tasks than i gve up just because nobody wants to helping me.... and coxinha knows that too... he helps me one time on bush terror task. Ask him before the update if he will help me again...... of corse not and he told me that was not good because he cant hunt with me with party.....

Its easy to talk about something when u r not in the same skin.....

i will repeat: for the first time i didnt got waste... i made ahunt and i could make more money than i normaly do, so this update will be better for all mages on elysium... i hope zaza can help and said what warlock needs....

I am fighting and trying to express myself sense 2 year ago, about pyro and all mages... and people were laughing on my face telling me to make a warrior...

So there is people realy envious, what about paladins and barbarians hunting dire boar, mobing 8, killinh them sleeping, with no waste, making alot of money, and 800kh????????? i realy dont see anyproblem but just to show u tham its easy talk about someone else.....
Baltas
Player

Pharos
Level 362
Mage
30th September 2015 14:27:55

Quoting Soruts:
Baltas if is non pvp why we need to hit on party? That didnt change anything my friend, if u were playing here u will see, i can make alone 790k h, on boar, with a bloker i will make less, that is the best exp i can make and is not even with someone. Is alone my friend... i dont undertand what r trying to say... pyro was always like that hiting on area, with party or not... lol all my life when i was complening about be pyro people were telling me than its my problem choose pyro, now the way than u said look like pyro is a good, when the truth is : probaly i will start make a little bit more money( and is not for the party thing, its because is not so expensive to hunt anymore) and not waste like i was ALWAYS... and some people will not say no to me if i need help in a task...


You make 790 solo. Okay, I cant make it on my 206lvl warlock.
I could make higher exp in party, but thats only if i hunt with lower lvl rangers. And its not because my vication is good. Thats because i am high lvl. In party it doesnt matter how much dmg u do. It matters how much party members does. Higher you are, more exp you get.

So, "my friend" hunt with low lvl rangers, use party and just move around. You dont even have to atk, you will maybe reach 700-800k/h just walking. Or just hunt without party.

I am not saying pyros should hit their blockers in elysium, I am saying pyros got too cheap.

P.s. you mention pyros in elysium, dont forget, that in pvp worlds pyros were always damaging their team mates. And thats the pyro case. They should be hard to play, but really good when you master it.

Elysium case is different. None pvp is a mistake by itself. But trying not to be racialist towards none pvpers i will just agree that elysium should be totaly none pvp.
Baltas
Player

Pharos
Level 362
Mage
30th September 2015 14:29:45

Quoting Soruts:
And just correct something elusium is a land of paladins, and in the mage case its a land of shamans, just research before talk...


I dont have to make a research. There are support classes and fighting classes. So ofc its paladin + shaman
Baltas
Player

Pharos
Level 362
Mage
30th September 2015 14:34:13

Quoting Soruts:
Its easy come here and talk anything u want, so why 90% of mages on elisium r shamans???? If pyro r so goood????? Talk with statistics let me see.... i agree with u than warlock is not a stronger class but in non pvp my friends pyro is not the stronger class that is why there alot of shamans look how many exp bistocao can make, and i am not atacking shamans because of that... i think its cool the way than it is... maybe some help on warlock will help, what do u think? 😊


Why there are not so many pyros? Because people couldnt make pyros in these 24hours or how long passed?
Once again strongest pvm spell is bravery. So shaman and paladin is surely the best tandem. When they make party members not to hit eachother in ely, more and more high lvl pyros will appear. Imagine 2 pyros lvl 150+ team hunting with infernos. They would have to expand spawns. Right? Do you remember OTS where you ue everything? Thats the future
Baltas
Player

Pharos
Level 362
Mage
30th September 2015 14:45:40 (Last edited 30th September 2015 18:52:40)

Damn, you made many posts.

You say u profited for the first time in a long time. Let me tell you I rarely profit myself. But I dont mind wasting. I just hate, that now being the most expensive class (warlock) i make the lowest experience/h together with shaman from all classes.
I dont want warlocks to be cheaper. I was okay with all the waste I always had.
Your mentioned absorbing aura doesnt bother me much. 30% is something around the good point. Raise is OP, but thats pvp spells, while bravery is both pvp and pvm OP.
In hunts Rop is nice to have, but gives like no advantage.

I was asking with all my arguments for wands to hit more often. From 1.5sec per hit to 1sec per hit.
This would give me extra 200dmg in 3sec.
I believe that would be fair pvm boost for all mages. But no, mister K-zodron aka Baltas hater decides to make his own decision without any strong arguements.
He says "to fix economy". I would say its to fix me annoyed.
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