I don't believe noone complained so far. I've waited for some days but now I got enough.

What the fuck are you doing with this game?

To gain skills we needed to train on monsters (retargetting) or with players (healing). We had to be online or have friends healing us. I don't want to talk about bots/macros/etc here. When we got 1 skill, it was like achievement. It was hard and fun. We were proud of our skills. And now 90% of server players are afk training for 24 hours per day. I don't want to talk about crashes here too.

Where is the fun to play a character and make it stronger? Is it fun to have zezenia opened and minimized all the time? To play it once per 2 weeks? You can either make it we gain skills offline, it's the same. It also saves a power worldwide. Think about natural resources. Sarcasm of. I play for a bit more than 3 months but I've read there was a server reset cause players were duplicating items. I believe it's not ok to get best items at game that way. But wait.. Oh, I can afk train my char and then just get them, need only time to do that.

You wanted to help players without training partners to gain skills. Did you think about increasing retargetting time to 1-5 mins to make it less tiring? No, you got rid of that. How clever is that? You made tasks for skills to help us getting them. Why? It's worth nothing now. I was training on mobs for more than a month before I started training with players. I had to meet some of them, know them and trust to do that. Now I don't need it anymore.

I had fun for that 3 months. It was really great game. Don't listen to anyone complaining zezenia is too hard.

I've died 4 times so far.

1st on level 1, spiderling (oh, there are monsters stronger than me)
2nd about level 20, orc apprentice (oh, I can't block magic damage and I need to buy hp pots)
3rd about 30 I think, Ol Shunner (don't join the party with players you don't know and don't go kitchen for a cup of coffee)
4th about 50, rc (dced cause of my inet connection)

I lagged about 5 times so far total. Every single player complaining about server's lagging/freezing is stupid. Get better pc/connection.

I believe we need rollback to update day or very quick change to training system. Feel free to flame me, I just don't want to play a game where I get something for nothing. It's like playing zezenia and botting at tibia at the same time, as some of the players here do. Btw, gratz to them.

And one more time, I don't believe none of high level players haven't complained about it.

And yes, I'm posting this in the bug section.

Retired till rollback/very quick change/forever.

Slighty edited 1st post, added a line or two.

lol

1st, change the word fuck, there playing children this game, i've been banned for such things.
2nd, before the reset, there were training mobs called fibonacci's, those were available to skill on 4 hours a day if i can remember, do you want that or retarget monsters every 5 seconds, or just a trusty friend that heals itself or maybe you.
3rd, try to install the latency lag fixer ; http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html , maybe this helps the lags.
4th, we just had a frikking update?! So why even bother calling the staff members, they're busy fixing shiat !
5th, Don't cry, 'cause i think you're the only one not liking this training system, it is easy, if you got good and trusty friends.

Sincerely,
Ian. :)

I don't get your point, You're not even suffering with the recent server issues that the staff has been busy on.

You talk about a game reset that You have not presence by yourself and mention It like you presenced, If you didn't then you don't know so please don't go far with that, You don't have any idea how many issues happened and it was not only about duplicating stuff, It was really hard to me but I keep playing the game and note that I was top level of the game before the reset, the majority are still playing the game but these that cheated and abused of the bugs gone - You don't need to complain about that since you werent part of the issue or the community during this time.

I have to agree with You that most players are macroing to train skills, but honestly, why don't you report them if you're so bothered with the situation, i know a few of them but do you believe that reporting them will make them stop cheating? that banishing them of the game will make things easier and help the game or community to grow better? I've listenned to this tons of time in this forum and you keep saying something that all GMs are worried about, but what they can do? do you want them to ban 90% of the game as you say? if elysium online player average is 30 then you want decrease that average to 3? I honestly took a decision in my life to keep somethings only to me and to never share this kind of things in public, I really enjoy my friends here in this game, If they're afk macroing, cooking, watching tv, taking a shower, its not up to me to take the decision to punish him for staying away and letting his char being healed by others or even if he was doing cheating, im not going to guess or check every 3 minutes if he will answer to me. The current training system will never be an issue, but it would be cool to improve it, A ROLLBACK for this will never be necessary and makes no sense at all, let guesses to witches and candy to kids or start reporting instead of taking this as a PERSONAL karma.

Another proposal if all players can train with monsters (dark monk, ob monk etc) then add fibo's for premmy players !!!

The combination of not having an AFK-kicker and the removed re-targetting of monsters is a lethal combination, and it needs to change.

I propose the reinstatement of the "re-target monster each ...", and an AFK-kicker. It could be a few minutes for the re-targetting, but at least you actually need to be there, and then the AFK-kicker so people again still need to be there in case of training with other players, that switch on the healing stance. Then you will face the least abuse and since you can't stop bots anyway, at least you'll make it harder for 'em. And I don't think there won't be a system such as Tibia's where players are recognized as cheaters by an anti-cheat system.

I have to agree with Lady Fury on this one, this afk training thing is a little much, I tied for the highest skilled Barbarian in the game now (passing it soon), big deal, I have been afk training nonstop (besides from the crashes) for the past couple days. Gaining these skills now does not matter like it used to. We do need some form of a Re-target system, not just an afk kicker, because then we could not make friends with a Shaman or Paladin to heal us at times (still someone online versus 90% of the server afk training all day). Maybe not 20 seconds, but a few minutes, that way you can have to either use a macro (risk being banned), or actually there playing the game.
On the lag note, I also have only lagged maybe twice the entire time I have played this game, both times was when I was having thunder storms in my area, which I expected to happen. I never get server lag, unless the server itself is crashing. This character has yet to even die yet, I do not disconnect or lag out ever on normal days.

I like it, if higher levels decide to afk skill they will die nearly every time. Free frags bro.

Not on non pvp servers like Elysium ;) There is going to be a massive amount of 80/80s under level 20 on Ely who never actually play.