Agree, If shockwave is expanded to include all surrounding tiles - incorporating the tiles behind and beside the barbarian - in addition to the front wave, then barbarians could match rogues in XP per hour, and probably still below marksmen in XP per hour, but it seems fair enough.. ..

Can we stop make everything broken? Just nerf the broken classes to match others…

Nerfing only “broken” classes doesn’t solve balance..... it just drags everyone down and often makes the game less fun and slower overall. If some subclass is underperforming, buffing it to a reasonable baseline is simply correcting imbalance, not power creep! Real balance is about convergence of viable options, not equalizing everything by reduction....

Besides that, most of the community agrees that only two of the seven subclasses are currently underpowered in PvE (warlock and barbarian). So there's no point in nerfing all the others that are already balanced....

The game needs overall rework sadly, enchanting.. lifesteal.. etc

1) Paladins should have an areal grip spell that pulls 5 nearby monsters to paladin, or maybe a chain spell to hook the mobs to the 8 SQM surrounding (box) the paladin, enabling a great feature to encourage more team hunts.


2) Barbarian: The problem with barbarians is paladins are very close to barbarians in terms of damage at higher levels but they also fill the “tank” role too, they're also useless in PvP, remaining highly vulnerable due to a lack of utility. Their kit completely lacks solo crowd control tools like taunts, silence effect, paralyzes or bleeding to use against targets.


2. I - Add a new stat to 2H weapons that grants a 33% chance for barbarian to deal auto-attack damage to 4 nearby monsters around himself, only when the mobs are within the 8 SQM surrounding (box).

This new stat can buff the power of Two-Handed weapons but their potential remains restricted to their immediate melee range and capped at 4 extra targets besides the main target. Unlike, rangers and mages, who retain the advantage of kiting, dealing damage while running. A relevant point: like rangers' Areal Arrow, the player would have to sacrifice another stat on their weapon in order to add this new one.

Rangers became strong since they have area auto-attacks: Ricochets and Areal Arrow. Barbarians deserve to receive something similar to further improve their subclass.

Therefore, if this new stat were introduced for 2H weapons, Barbarians could even choose to sacrifice physical defense, magical defense, or even dodge in order to focus on equipment pieces with Critical Hit Boost, since hunting while dealing critical hits with 2H weapons would become an attractive option for achieving the best experience per hour.


2. II - Rework Blind Rush: allow it to be used with mouse-cursor targeting. The Barbarian would leap to the selected spot and, on impact, apply a silence effect to all enemies in a small area (3x3 around the barbarian), preventing them from casting damage spells for 5 seconds. Raising the cooldown from 20 to 100 seconds. This change would give to barbarians much more outplay potential in PvP.


3) Warlocks have been neglected, only 1 of their spells scale damage and the second hit is now even lower than shaman (warlocks second hit is 25% and shamans is 50%).


3. I - The final Warlock talent, Immolation, is also bugged because it does not increase Advanced Soul Fire damage at all! It urgently needs to be fixed.


3. II - New AoE spell: copy marksman's arrow volley mechanic of deal damage to target and 4 nearby monsters with 4 seconds cooldown instead 5 seconds, but inserting the damage equal to Blood Leech, weakest warlock damage spell, ensuring that the damage scales correctly.

This spell could also apply a damage-over-time (DoT) effect to all targets affected, ticking 3 times over a 3-second duration (1 tick per second), all ticks with same initial damage of Blood Leech.

Like Marksman Arrow Volley, it could only affect the main target in PvP.

This way, Warlocks would have 2 AoE spells in their own subclass for hunting.

That's really interesting! Barb might be a lot more dynamic than it is now;

Taking into consideration what barb should be in terms of exp/h, according to this:



Barb class is the bottom of the barrel though, followed by wls

Marksmen and rogues naturally achieve better XP/h because of their superior utility, mobility, larger AoE spells, and AoE auto-attacks. In contrast, the Barbarian is a strict melee fighter exposed to constant damage, and the Warlock is a single-target spellcaster lacking heavy area-of-effect (AoE) farming.



If a class that levels up faster (like Marksman or Rogue) also matches or surpasses the damage output of a pure offensive class (Pyromancer, Warlock and Barbarian), it completely breaks the game's risk-reward ecosystem.



Based on the subclass statistics displayed on the Subclasses Design cards in the in-game Library, we can divide them into three categories that reflect the staff's intended design for these subclasses:

Pure Offensive (High Damage / Low Defense)

Pyromancer: Damage: [X][X][X][X][X] | Survivability: [X][X][ ][ ][ ]
Barbarian: Damage: [X][X][X][X][ / ] | Survivability: [X][X][X][ ][ ]
Warlock: Damage: [X][X][X][X][ ] | Survivability: [X][X][X][ ][ ]

Balanced / Hybrid (Moderate Damage / Moderate Defense)

Shaman: Damage: [X][X][X][ / ][ ] | Survivability: [X][X][X][X][ ]
Marksman: Damage: [X][X][X][ / ][ ] | Survivability: [X][X][ / ][ ][ ]
Rogue: Damage: [X][X][X][ ][ ] | Survivability: [X][X][X][ ][ ]

Pure Defensive (Moderate Damage / High Defense)

Paladin: Damage: [X][X][X][ ][ ]| Survivability: [X][X][X][X][ / ][ ]


Warlocks and Barbarians must possess the highest offensive power in the game, surpassed only by Pyromancers, while suffering from low survivability. Since they cannot achieve the same experience-per-hour rates as Marksmen or Rogues, keeping their raw damage nerfed relative to those classes creates a double penalty: slower leveling speeds combined with fragile defenses (for Warlocks) or limited AoE capabilities (for Barbarians), making these subclasses almost unviable as competitive choices in late-game PvM.

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agree to barbarian 2 handed weapons with some kind of cleave stat that hits up to 4 additional enemies. . .barbarian is created to be an melee class that survives through life steal and aggressive combat rather than damage mitigation like paladin

paladins can safely handle larger pulls and often achieve similar experience even being the tank class. . .

rangers have access to ricochet on distance weapons, conceding attacks to hit up to 2 additional targets, possess area autoattacks, have aoe abilities with significantly bigger coverage than barbarian spells and can clear groups of monsters faster keeping at range

introducing cleave as a barbarian weapon stat would help address this imbalance by giving the class a solid way to damage multiple nearby enemies, redefining the purpose of a class that is supposed to be specialized in offensive melee combat

the goal is not to surpass rangers in area size of spells or paladins in negation of damage or even healing power, but to ensure that the barbarian fills its purpose of inflicting higher damage at the cost for example of removing the last 3% lifesteal in frenzy or frenzy reducing 10% defending skill, but making sure shockwave gets a size addition to all tiles surrounding barbarian. . .

Yeah, that's correct.
Barbarians were made to impose highest DPS and very high spell damage on their small area of impact.

Rangers have the same HP as warriors, giving them the same raw survivability, and still higher area damage and stronger basic attack damage through ricochets.
Barbarians were nerfed because their HP steal was too high, and that was a fair and reasonable adjustment.

As originally intended, activating Frenzy should come with a meaningful trade-off: the Barbarian sacrifices a considerable amount of defense, skill, or overall physical protection in exchange for a substantial offensive boost.
The attack bonus granted by Frenzy should be proportional to, or greater than, the defensive loss, enabling the barbarian to stand among the best subclasses for players who want to level up faster and more efficiently.

However, as a consequence, Barbarian damage is now below expectations for a vocation intended to be an offensive minded warrior. Since their spells were made to impact only small areas of 5 to 8 sqm, their damage should be significantly increased to better align them with their original concept.

Instead of: Increase damage of rage of Fury or enlarge the area of shockwave. Frenzy can get a type of ricochet for barbarians, dealing damage only for adjacent enemies, limited to a distance of 1 square from the barbarian.

Also 2handed weapons can get a new attribute similar to the previous ranger's areal arrow, a small area just like paladin's holy sword around the target, up to 20% chance to proc this extra damage.