Soldeq Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 321
Warrior
S4
S3
22K
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29th July 2023 22:50:20
hello, everyone, i'm here to ask a question...I stopped to play a long time ago and returned recently.
i used to play with warrior but...now the game has some little changes..I'd like to know your opnions, what subclass is better today, paladin or barbarian? in terms of pvp pve ![]() ![]() |
Tokan Sado Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 1040
Warrior
S2
42K
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30th July 2023 17:09:23
Depends on your gamestyle, on high levels (600+) barbarian is absolutely better, but early game for barbarians is rough, I still recomend paladin at begining they have better defense and healing, so its harder to die and on early levels the damage gap isnt that big, since you can always switch, i'd start as paladin.
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Death Soul Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 34
Mage
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30th July 2023 18:32:32
Barbarian is way better, playing as paladin is really hard now, they should at least give back the damage of cleave like it was in the past, even then barb will be overpowered.
In my opinion they should lower barbarian aoe spells roughly by 30%, or like on pyro's, make their life steal 66% or even less. @topic I would take barbarian for start to the end |
Silencerxz Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 321
Ranger
S5
S4
24
33K
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30th July 2023 18:49:30
@topic
Fully agree with @Death Soul, barbarian is way better than paladin in every acpect. @offtopic compared to mages, barbarian is way easier to play, still making same exp and standing crazy boxes of monsters and kill them easily (geck'zah for example) while warlock/pyro can die trapped with 4 or 5, 12-13 k exp mobs (lone eyes, soul devourers, murd crabs or lizard spellweavers for example), not even mentioning geck'zahs. Its the 1st game I have ever seen, where tank subclass is similiar in making exp to difficult and more fragile mages or distance professions... |
Nameless Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 763
Warrior
S5
20K
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30th July 2023 21:51:28
Its not about diference betwen barbarian or paladin. Nowdays stats of equips make barbarians stronger because they can kill/survive without any heal. BUT you must have good equipament and if you stop to hit or wrong you can easily die to.
If you dont have good equips and lvl enought to hunt without heal i rather paladin.. |
Zimbz Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 15
Warrior
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31st July 2023 12:01:29 (Last edited 31st July 2023 12:28:01) Quoting Nameless: Its not about diference betwen barbarian or paladin. Nowdays stats of equips make barbarians stronger because they can kill/survive without any heal. BUT you must have good equipament and if you stop to hit or wrong you can easily die to. If you dont have good equips and lvl enought to hunt without heal i rather paladin.. ??????? a level 500 barb and paladin both dont really need to heal. The difference is barbarian STILL is way to over powered. They do TOO much exp/hr compare to paladins. There is a massive gap that paladins fall behind in terms of exp/hr. You talk about the gear.. so lets... Firstly, ill agree its very gear based, but its like that with paladin as well. You miss a heal or cleave and your dead too? Its not JUST barbarians that need the gear. All classes do so this becomes an irrelevant opinion. The matter of the fact is, and its blatant as well... is barbarians need a life steal cap. all classes do. "in order for me to hunt and not healing, I need good equips" <--- this sounds stupid... really... stupid............. why the fk should you ever stop healing is the question? Gear shouldnt make you as strong as gear does currently and NOT have to heal. You are playing a MMORPG. Sum this down, Barbarians need a nice nerf too much dmg they do annnnnd with the life steal having no damn cap barbarians are superiors at exp/hr. . life steal NEEDS A CAP FOR ALL CLASSES. this full heal shit from using spells is stupid... telling you if you make life steal LESS effective then it is now, barbarians will take a nerf automatically. you will force them to stop using attack spell to heal, which will slow dmg down, thus resulting in less exp/hr. To see someone say I choose barbarian cuz I have good equips, but if i have shit equips i choose paladin, <----- clear indicator the classes are broken and need attending too. when this isnt even fully true anyways xD a lvl 500 + barb and pala, have 1 difference......... exp/hr the gap is HUGE. dont tell me otherwise either cause you were paladin and changed to barb to do more exp. other then that, paladins were doing the same shit., not healing, as long as 5 monsters and use cleave and not stop attacking, you barely ever heal too? but paladins dmg output is trash. complete trash so a 500+ paladin with full boost can do what 18kk-22kk in magician bears with full boost... compare to barbarians making 30kk+ doing the same thing with the same gear... both classes never healing really... but look at this gap..... like I said the gap is too big between these 2 classes. They need to close it, either make barb do less dmg, nerf life steal, give paladins cleave 100% dmg back, theres solutions. But staff is missing in action these days. I dont even want to get started with shamans... they really need help xD funny to see these high levels say "im breaking resp.." well no shit.. theres no spawn in this game to hold lvl 700s lol. Your guna break every spawn you hunt. Thats what you get for playing too much xD now you want to keep taking high exp. you guys need to go play some ots or something, the way you want this game to be so easy is mind blowing. Its already easy and you want it MORE easy. give your heads a shake....... "Im level 700 breaking resp of level 400, plz fix spawn" stupid stupid stupid. just add content aimed for level 700s? ever a thought to ya? or you just like grinding low level spawns the bitch about overkilling them...... seems like thats what the case is with these lvl 700s who bitch about breaking respawns everywhere. cry and complain your to high level and breaking all resp, your always crying about something |
Nameless Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 763
Warrior
S5
20K
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31st July 2023 13:50:17
Zymbz You dont know what you're talking about, sorry. =)
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Zimbz Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 15
Warrior
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31st July 2023 19:26:09 (Last edited 31st July 2023 19:41:22)
Lol okay.
Namelezz, like you do? No shit gear made ALL classes stronger. "if you miss attack or heal you easily die" <-- this goes for any class for your information. my point is the new gear made barbarians even more strong (hence why all you paladin junkies switched). You prefer the easy game play, or why switch? You wanted leveling easier so you all switched to barbarian cause they are basically the same if not better then a paladin right now with more dmg. YES WITH GEAR. Keep in mind most active players now days are in elysium and pharos. Zera died. All the ely and pharos ppl have NICE GEAR. you talk like theres a crowd of new players around. Practice what you preach my guy, you sir. Have 0 clue of what you are talking about. You just prefer the easy game play, mimimimi story all the time. Thats why you botted 24/7 and stopped on the 2nd ban wave, but was in fear of playing cause you "used in the past". Try thinking more broad and level headed to better balance the game. Not just for your greedy self. Its clear every player here knows, Barbarian and Warlock are Meta classes. When it comes to Mage and Warrior. Dont sit there and deny this fact. Its been test by tons of players. Tons. You want to sit there and turn a blind eye to this, its because you enjoy your OP gameplay. You have NO challenge. Probably dont need to use your bot anymore because of this. So come to terms of reality that barbarian is better then paladin in every single aspect. If you play a paladin get ready to grind your face off twice as hard as a barb would. you know this luch i know you do. you agreed to it before, now you are changing your story, cause you are afriad they are going to screw your META class on ya? well they should and god do i hope they really do. cause the game is far from balanced. FAR. barbarian and warlock all day. other classes almost have no use now. xD just look at the highscores all over, warlock warlock warlock shaman warlock warlock warlock pyro warlock, barb barb barb barb barb barb barb barb paladin(but soon changing to barb) barb barb barb what does this tell you? Sorry :) |
Death Soul Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 34
Mage
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31st July 2023 20:29:35
Stop crying you stupid mut****cker, you wanna nerv a class because 3 or 4 guys enjoys and have time of playing warlocks?
If they had a marksman with same time that they spent on warlock, they would made the same daily exp. I hate you all smart noobes crying here and there to nerve and nerve manual players. Where THE FUCK have you been when BEELZEBOOTZ was hunting afk on paladin till 819 lvl? I havent seen you anywhere posting about nerving pala etc, especially than 1 year he had every day top daily exp. maybe its you and now wanna nerv everybody that play manually heh? As silencerx stated here, like a prophet, while BARBARIAN can stand FULL chest of these, warlocks or any other mages will die in a blink of eye fighting with 4-5, and the same night he got a proof Invoker 30th July 2023 23:51:21 a volcanic golem 628 Yes Luisvasquez 30th July 2023 20:21:07 a boulder thrower 636 Yes and 27th July 2023 05:47:45 a lizard spellweaver 636 Yes youre just mimimimi and the fact of having rly good EQ that Nameless said, its IMOPORTANT Everybody that I know, who's making good exp have godly EQ, with full 30-33% exp boost, full m res, nice dodge and physical, other guys that I dont know why have eq from eidos, just cant do a good exp. @Zimbz you look like a guy who got caught on a botting, lost all gear and now crying, because what you represent on yourself is just being ugly TOXIC Quoting Nameless: Zymbz You dont know what you're talking about, sorry. =) Holy true. Stop crying, start playing, if you dont play because you are no hand or whatever, just dont make suffer people that actually play the game with their hands, like for sure those 3-4 best warlocks are doing now. |
Nameless Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 763
Warrior
S5
20K
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1st August 2023 04:44:14 Quoting Zimbz: Lol okay. Namelezz, like you do? No shit gear made ALL classes stronger. "if you miss attack or heal you easily die" <-- this goes for any class for your information. my point is the new gear made barbarians even more strong (hence why all you paladin junkies switched). You prefer the easy game play, or why switch? You wanted leveling easier so you all switched to barbarian cause they are basically the same if not better then a paladin right now with more dmg. YES WITH GEAR. Keep in mind most active players now days are in elysium and pharos. Zera died. All the ely and pharos ppl have NICE GEAR. you talk like theres a crowd of new players around. Practice what you preach my guy, you sir. Have 0 clue of what you are talking about. You just prefer the easy game play, mimimimi story all the time. Thats why you botted 24/7 and stopped on the 2nd ban wave, but was in fear of playing cause you "used in the past". Try thinking more broad and level headed to better balance the game. Not just for your greedy self. Its clear every player here knows, Barbarian and Warlock are Meta classes. When it comes to Mage and Warrior. Dont sit there and deny this fact. Its been test by tons of players. Tons. You want to sit there and turn a blind eye to this, its because you enjoy your OP gameplay. You have NO challenge. Probably dont need to use your bot anymore because of this. So come to terms of reality that barbarian is better then paladin in every single aspect. If you play a paladin get ready to grind your face off twice as hard as a barb would. you know this luch i know you do. you agreed to it before, now you are changing your story, cause you are afriad they are going to screw your META class on ya? well they should and god do i hope they really do. cause the game is far from balanced. FAR. barbarian and warlock all day. other classes almost have no use now. xD just look at the highscores all over, warlock warlock warlock shaman warlock warlock warlock pyro warlock, barb barb barb barb barb barb barb barb paladin(but soon changing to barb) barb barb barb what does this tell you? Sorry :) Poor guy.. you cant even post in a main char.. or you dont have any... (i almost sure that you're that guy who stole some ppls from Ely) Stop cry please. |