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Baltas
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Pharos
Level 362
Mage
3rd February 2016 10:14:40 (Last edited 3rd February 2016 10:27:39)

Quoting Bugwt:
Quoting Baltas:
Quoting Bugwt:
Why dont change pvp frag system ?

Change to one thing that :
1 - become impossible , or maybe hard, to power abuse.
2 - become fair for fights of same lvls...


like, if u kill someone is around 20 lvls or yours, you dont waste frags.
if you kill someone is 20~50 lvls less than yours u waste 1 frag.
if you kill someone 50~75 lvls less than yours u waste 2 frags in once.
if you kill someone like 75~100 lvls less than yours you waste 3 frags.
if you kill someone like 100+ less lvl than yours you get red skull and become impossible to remove, also your exp / skill trining reduce 25% efficient.

This include if you help to kill just hitting and nothing last hit , in case of 100+ less lvls.

so you didnt need to a new continent if u frag someone of your lvl.


Would be so much motivation to lvl up.


let me see, u dont wanna any change , dosent matter will be good for newcommers or not, neither for fair fight , you always complain when reduce ur perspective power of low lvls. like reduce pvp damage. ?

You should start waste ur frags instead blame changes that help new commers


I dont feel like taking a frag on everyone i can. If i see 8ppl. Lvls 50-150. I know that unless those 50's are pzed i cant really fight normaly Cuz if i unjust lets say 150 then those 50 will atk me and i will have to go away. Cuz killing them would lead me to black skull and then ban (and they would lose 15mins hunt)

This game gives everything to low lvls already. They have damage, they dont lose anything when dieng and they have rights to ask for more. Check this, lvl 30 whos good can make similar exp/h what i make because of his exp boost. Lvl 100 ranger with good skills can make 600k ezp/h. Lvls 100 have all combined spells what we, high lvls have. Thanks god few spells are still progresive, so at least in some spots high lvls feels to be high lvls.

You have 10 chars lvl 50 and u can fight none stop. I have 1 lvl218 and i have to be careful with every frag i take. Thats how low lvls harm the game. They are random pking, not us lvls 200+.

If you are lvl 50 and u have 10 enemies online lvls 200. U can hunt, cuz u know they wont go for u. Unless they really care about u. And if u die, as said before u lose several minutes of exping.

If you sre lvl 200 and u have 10 lvls 50-100 online, you should already be careful cuz u KNOW they will come for u. And u CARE, because you lose 100 times more exp when dieing.
The Warlockk
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Elysium
Level 190
Mage
3rd February 2016 12:26:47

Quoting Baltas:
This game gives everything to low lvls already. They have damage, they dont lose anything when dieng and they have rights to ask for more. Lvl 100 ranger with good skills can make 600k ezp/h. Lvls 100 have all combined spells what we, high lvls have.

You have 10 chars lvl 50 and u can fight none stop. I have 1 lvl218 and i have to be careful with every frag i take.


If you sre lvl 200 and u have 10 lvls 50-100 online, you should already be careful cuz u KNOW they will come for u. And u CARE, because you lose 100 times more exp when dieing.

This is why I really like this idea of small continent pvp enforced, specially for the reasons I've already mentioned before.

High levels (level 130+) really need this continent
The Warlockk
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Elysium
Level 190
Mage
5th February 2016 07:44:08 (Last edited 5th February 2016 07:45:09)

BUMP.

I know that designing a new continent, even though it's small, isn't a thing to be accomplished out of the blue, overnight. It takes time to do it, but I would like to see a response from the Staff to know if it could be done, even if it would take a coulpe months...
Either K-zodron or a GM, please answer!

I also changed that, if needed, players would have to pay 1 premium card everytime they decide to travel to that new small continent.

I made this thread wishing to improve Zezenia's gameplay, please answer it.
Koutriz
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Platon
Level 12
Warrior
5th February 2016 08:14:32

King, i agree if you but, im was talking about :

If this small island players in war dont wast frags. so, they will save more frags for Power abuse the newcommers. thats the problem im talking.

This island should implement with anothers mechanics about how to make hard the life to power abuse someone. like, why the hell we can take off red skull with cards ? what the goal with this ? Only win cards?

So, put the small price to get acess to this island for month. 20 cards/month. ( And impossible to remove red skull with cards ).
The Warlockk
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Elysium
Level 190
Mage
5th February 2016 08:25:34 (Last edited 5th February 2016 08:29:28)

Quoting Koutriz:
If this small island players in war dont wast frags. so, they will save more frags for Power abuse the newcommers. thats the problem im talking.

This island should implement with anothers mechanics about how to make hard the life to power abuse someone. like, why the hell we can take off red skull with cards ? what the goal with this ? Only win cards?

So, put the small price to get acess to this island for month. 20 cards/month. ( And impossible to remove red skull with cards ).

I, again, agree with you! But I see if from another perspective: this island will give unlimited kills for high levels against another high levels. This is a new content exclusive for high levels. if a low level wishes to participate, he will feel motivated to level up and become able to do so.

And it would open up the discussion of the subject that you've just mentioned: after the pvp-enforced island gets implemented and the access to this place would eventually charge premium cards (1 premium card per entrance or 20 premium cards per month?), should players still be able to pay premium cards to get their black skulls(redname) removed?

I see this new continent as a new good page in PvP system that would cause an awesome revolution to the growth of Zezenia Online
Anzear
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Pharos
Level 307
Mage
5th February 2016 09:39:30 (Last edited 5th February 2016 09:52:19)

I have a better idea, how about we just raise frags by level after 100 get 1 extra frag per day for every 50 lvls.... So 149 and lower get 3 frags 150 to 199 gets 4 200 to 249 gets 5 frags per day ect.


I mean people keep saying powerabuse but no lvl 200 is going out of their way to waste a frag a lvl 50 outside of when they are helping in a battle and even then we try not too cuz its wasteful frag. Outside of when its justified kill

I mean i have never wasted a frag on a low lvl like that. To add to that noone in my team has done that when it hasnt been a battle related incident if it wasn't justified honestly outside of very rare occasions when a low lvl are being destructive or something and i dont see why others would do that

People only using powerabuse claim as an excuse to stall progress in pvp on zezenia... Plus this gives people motivation to level up so they can get those extra frags

So i believe this is a worthy fix as well... Feel free to tell me your thought
Anzear
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Pharos
Level 307
Mage
5th February 2016 09:44:14

But still i like continent idea as well... I personally think both these ideas should be implemented
The Warlockk
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Elysium
Level 190
Mage
5th February 2016 10:39:38

Quoting Anzear:
I have a better idea, how about we just raise frags by level after 100 get 1 extra frag per day for every 50 lvls.... So 149 and lower get 3 frags 150 to 199 gets 4 200 to 249 gets 5 frags per day ect.


I mean people keep saying powerabuse but no lvl 200 is going out of their way to waste a frag a lvl 50 outside of when they are helping in a battle and even then we try not too cuz its wasteful frag. Outside of when its justified kill

Yeah, man...it's complicated.

I think increasing the number of frags by 1 for every 50 levels would be awesome for high levels, but still would be risky considering low levels.

You don't random pk low levels. In my case, I login my low lvl chars if I ever wanna kill low levels to give them a chance. Let's look deeper into it, let's take Tipitaka's ex-server high levels as an example: Dancore, Baltas and Isopet never random pked low levels and they always tried to help low levels from power abuses and random kills.

Now let's look back 2-3+ years ago and remember about Forums filled with threads involving the "supposed" power abuse and random pks of Dark Side guild in Platon against low levels. Let's go further: do you remember about Kurtius' forum post in which he said "My server, my rules."?

That's the problem, we will not random pk low levels. But what about other people? we cannot predict what is to come with Zezenia growing... you know? So increasing the frags of high levels would always be atleast a little risky towards low levels.
The Warlockk
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Elysium
Level 190
Mage
1st March 2016 22:24:40

It's been around a month, please some answer about it
The Warlockk
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Elysium
Level 190
Mage
11th March 2016 15:51:54

I have a dreammmmmmmmmmmmm
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