Zelazny Majszcz Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 179
Warrior
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16th March 2014 22:18:04
Huh i would bealive u but i saw film where leary is playing shaman and for me its one of best pvp vocation. But u know combo use 5 hits, and its possible to heal between them. Whats more tell me how many warlocks must be need to headshot u to make u satisfied?
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Derp Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 252
Mage
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16th March 2014 22:23:55 (Last edited 16th March 2014 22:35:02) Quoting Zbanowany Witold: Huh i would bealive u but i saw film where leary is playing shaman and for me its one of best pvp vocation. But u know combo use 5 hits, and its possible to heal between them. Whats more tell me how many warlocks must be need to headshot u to make u satisfied? This is going off topic now, it's not what makes me satisfied it's about bettering the PvP in this game, and I've seen a few people with concerns towards the PvP aspect of the game, so I decided to make a Proposal to help the situation. I've also put a second option in the first post. Quoting Warlockk Nonpvp: Witold, dont waste your time trying to discuss with these guys about PvP. Its like talking to a door and they will say you're a botter for being better than them in the end of the conversation. Go play Tibia, Barry Snail... I like that ure trying to make the game better, I eeven completely agree with your tasks proposal, but you still have to fight a lot of battles to have a proper, decent, opinion about pvp system. Having a 120 shaman on a 10x werver doesnt mean anything, since there is a high chance you dont even know how to use suh character or havent even tested or pushed up its limits. Go practice outside warzone with varied pvp situations and only then make a thread stating what u think about pvp Pce Just noticed the first part, there is no need for insults and generalizing because someone disagrees with your ideals, I have a different opinion to you, so rather state why my opinions aren't correct and what can be done to improve the situation. If you can't be civil and have a proper conversation, your posts aren't needed here. |
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Pharos
Level 111
Ranger
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16th March 2014 23:59:41
Reducing damage is a good idea, but it doesn't work with only reducing it. Also the healing is way too high. In my opinion, healing spells should be reduced as much as you reduce the damage in pvp. You don't need actual healer for anything else than to Birlusk, and even for it, only one. Reason why these warriors gets HS, is that without HS, they won't die, because their heal is so strong.
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Agron Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 593
Warrior
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17th March 2014 08:36:42 (Last edited 17th March 2014 08:37:43)
Well, Warriors are made to tank, in pvp they are very usefull for blocker but their DPS is not that good as ranger/mage..
But main point in pvp are mages, no matter what class, example; 2, 100 warlock against eachother.. Its most likely who got the first cmbo perfect wins, then its "UEHUEH SOLOED, Ely pvp.." I agree on Viperz words, pvp isnt all about 1 vs 1, a war isnt also about going for 1 person with 10+ people.. Decrease the mage dmg for a bit even if its just a few %, it will make the pvp a little bit harder, and a bit easier to survive. This way, you need real skill to kill someone, or a real well working team. E: I don't care that I'm from Ely or that I die to much lately, I ain't a charlover. But the system can use some changes. |
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Pharos
Level 362
Mage
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17th March 2014 10:24:36 Quoting Agger: Well, Warriors are made to tank, in pvp they are very usefull for blocker but their DPS is not that good as ranger/mage.. But main point in pvp are mages, no matter what class, example; 2, 100 warlock against eachother.. Its most likely who got the first cmbo perfect wins, then its "UEHUEH SOLOED, Ely pvp.." I agree on Viperz words, pvp isnt all about 1 vs 1, a war isnt also about going for 1 person with 10+ people.. Decrease the mage dmg for a bit even if its just a few %, it will make the pvp a little bit harder, and a bit easier to survive. This way, you need real skill to kill someone, or a real well working team. E: I don't care that I'm from Ely or that I die to much lately, I ain't a charlover. But the system can use some changes. Are you sure 100wrl can combo kill another 100wrl? I mean, on my 170 warlock i can survive Dancore (166pyro) or isopet (238shaman). So i highly doubt 100warlock can do what u said he can do... |
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Pharos
Level 593
Warrior
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17th March 2014 10:50:10 Quoting Baltas: Quoting Agger: Well, Warriors are made to tank, in pvp they are very usefull for blocker but their DPS is not that good as ranger/mage.. But main point in pvp are mages, no matter what class, example; 2, 100 warlock against eachother.. Its most likely who got the first cmbo perfect wins, then its "UEHUEH SOLOED, Ely pvp.." I agree on Viperz words, pvp isnt all about 1 vs 1, a war isnt also about going for 1 person with 10+ people.. Decrease the mage dmg for a bit even if its just a few %, it will make the pvp a little bit harder, and a bit easier to survive. This way, you need real skill to kill someone, or a real well working team. E: I don't care that I'm from Ely or that I die to much lately, I ain't a charlover. But the system can use some changes. Are you sure 100wrl can combo kill another 100wrl? I mean, on my 170 warlock i can survive Dancore (166pyro) or isopet (238shaman). So i highly doubt 100warlock can do what u said he can do... Yes, I am sure 100 wrl can kill other 100 wrl. We've tested it, El Viperz / Felicity and me. at that time I was 106 and Felicity also Viperz was like120. I could get Viperz to almost black HP and HS Felicity. Felicty can HS me also, and Viperz got me dead also. |
Baltas Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 362
Mage
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17th March 2014 11:14:04
you guys are using buff I hope?
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Madhouse Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 180
Warrior
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17th March 2014 11:18:32
There was a PvP discussion over 1 year ago and some things were proposed that both GMs and players agreed with, however they're still not done so I'm sorry to disappoint you but this discussion is pretty much useless.
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Felicity Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 91
Mage
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17th March 2014 11:33:02 Quoting Baltas: you guys are using buff I hope? Yes ofcourse we used buff, i can also headshot 100warlock and 100 shaman at the moment.. as you can see my kills on Kamed Aka Damek. |
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Elysium
Level 197
Warrior
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17th March 2014 11:42:29 Quoting El Viperz: Hello everyone, I'm back to make another proposal, this time in regards to the damage against players, I think at the moment the damage in PvP is just to high and takes away from the overall epicness of PvP, I mean if you kill a player in one shot where is the PvP/team strategys and as a MMO I think it should be more based on needing a team, rather than one or two mages. So here is my proposal.. Make a new talent which has 40 points available each point reduces PvP damage taken by 1%, you can only place 10 point in per 50 levels, meaning once you reach level 50 you can have 10 points in the talent which would reduce PvP damage taken by 10% then at level 100 you could have 20 points in said talent which would reduce incoming PvP damage by 20%, this would finally end with 40% reduced damage once you hit level 200. This would also open a gateway for more improvements to the weapon damage, as currently it is stuck due to damage output on players, you could also add things like Critical damage to spells, critical damage percent increase on weapons and other various things. Here is a second option, which I think would give similar results. Make a piece of equipment (I was going to say ring, but everyone knows what will be said then XD) which when worn makes 50% of all damage be taken from your mana. This piece of equipment could have a duration before turning to dust, Which would then have to be a ring or necklace, also be unique equip (So if it is a ring only one can be worn at any one time) Or could just be a secondary stat on a piece of equipment making it so when worn this effect takes place. As always constructive criticism and feedback is always welcome. Proposal not worth investigating. There are things much more important for now, like game content extension. |