Lopsled Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 112
Ranger
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22nd February 2014 14:39:58 (Last edited 22nd February 2014 14:40:40)
do anything since dont touch tartarus.. merge tipitaka and platon but plz let tartarus the way it is
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Baltas Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 362
Mage
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24th February 2014 08:19:42 Quoting K-Zodron: We thought a lot about adding more intense experience stages when we first introduced Tartarus, but I came to the conclusion that it would only benefit the server minimally. Plus when people can experience low-level characters really fast and kill without limits (and even gain experience while doing so), there would be a lot of people just killing others and then quitting, and there'd be very few mid-term and long-term players which are what were looking for. Either way PVP-E isn't a popular server type, not in Zezenia or any other MMORPG, and it will never be. Regarding the current poll, the speed-rate server would be regular PVP, like Platon. Obviously introducing it would require at least 1 server merge. In the first part of your post you showed up your goals and preferences (to have more mid-term and long-term players over those who login once a week). And then in the last line you said "server would be..." Which now confuses many people. Some of long-term players are being inactive to see if there will be merge. Which would force them to retire or at least wouldn't satisfy them. And the others, so called short-term players are waiting for OZ server. It goes for open zezenia server. I would maybe play that 10x or 50x rate server for a week or a month. But I am already a loyal player so it wouldn't benefit you at all. While getting bored after a month I would hardly continue regular 1x server. (we all know how fun it is to play strategy games with cheats for an hour or two, but then you try it without cheats and it goes way worse than before). About merging. There were a lot threads already. What I see from the community they don't really want that merge. Neither Tipitaka>platon, nor tartarus>platon. We all see that platon has the most people online from pvp servers so thats obvious that the hoster of that new merged server would be the same as atm Platon hoster. If tartarus gets merged to platon, people are worried because they are still a lot weaker than platonians and they don't wanna lose war. If tipitaka gets merged to platon, Europeans are worried about the lags while brs are saying "why did I waste my transfering premium cards??? I wanted freedom" If theres a must of launching new server which would require 1 merge I would suggest to leave an opportunity for people to choose. I mean if tartarus would be merged to some server. Let them choose what server to transfer to. In tipitakas case thats hard to suggest the same as there are no more European servers. What is more I am sure that tipitaka pays off by itself, so does elysium and platon. The only question mark is tartarus. Even tho, that wouldnt be fair for them to push them to platon without any alternatives. |
The Warlockk Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 190
Mage
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24th February 2014 10:21:36
The thing is that it's not fair to merge a PvP Enforced server with a PvP server, Baltas. It has no logic.
Even tho Tipitaka is an european server, it's a PvP server. That's what matters. If you think it's fair to merge Tartarus with Platon (PvP-E to PvP), I think it is even more fair to merge Tipitaka into Elysium (PvP to Non PvP), even because as you've mentioned, "some people saying "why did I waste my transfering premium cards??? I wanted freedom"". Why they relate Tipitaka with Freedom? Is it a non pvp server!? If there is a merge, it should be with both PvP servers, of the same type, not a PvP-E with a PvP server. It's logical. |
Baltas Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 362
Mage
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24th February 2014 11:52:12
Daniel, every time you make a post it makes less and less sense. No offence, but look what you are asking for. You got pvp e server which is surely the least populated even tho thats the only pvp e server. (all fans of pvp e choose only that server, so the community between pvp e doesn't split). Now you need another pvp e server with higher exp rate.
If you think it's fair to merge Tartarus with Platon (PvP-E to PvP), I think it is even more fair to merge Tipitaka into Elysium (PvP to Non PvP) If that one was sarcastic, which I doubt as you wouldn't fight your own statements, then shoot me in the face. Pvp and pvp e is similar, just in pvp e u can avoid noob chars in fights, as you also don't care about frags which makes it impossible for war to last long at higher lvls. While none pvp is extremely different. Both pvp and pvp-e leaves an opportunity for players to fight for their rights, doesn't matter if its protecting the spawn, protecting friends or protecting yourself. While n pvp is (excuse me French) is a friendly farm. As I understand your point of pvp-e is to have unlimited frag. Tell me how many frags did you take in last 6months on people higher lvl than 40? I am pretty sure it wouldnt be more than the limit for a ban (having in mind you can pay red name any time you want). |
The Warlockk Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 190
Mage
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24th February 2014 11:57:33 (Last edited 24th February 2014 12:11:49) Quoting Baltas: Daniel, every time you make a post it makes less and less sense. No offence, but look what you are asking for. You got pvp e server which is surely the least populated even tho thats the only pvp e server. (all fans of pvp e choose only that server, so the community between pvp e doesn't split). Now you need another pvp e server with higher exp rate. That's the difference between me and you...You post stuff according to your interest and only. I do not. I don't need a higher experience rate server, I suggested that just so old players could come back and keep playing, such as Reaven, for example or Alinor Doomsday, and new players would start actually playing this game for PvP more often than usual, since they would not have to get lvls during boring hours of hunting to only then be able to fight proper fights, Capiche? As an example, you can see HERE - [Tartarus] Exp from PKing that I proposed an expereince from Pking reward where only low levels would gain experience from higher lvls kills. I would be the one putting myself into a risk zone where low levels could kill me for experience, but I did not care at all... I proposed that thinking about the game, not about me. But you are posting here just to defend your own interests: NOT MERGING TIPITAKA BECUASE YOU ARE AFRAID TO FIGHT AGAINST PLATON PLAYERS. As you can see, I am level 104 on this Pyromancer, 107 on my Barbarian, 59 on my rogue.. I surely spend time lvling and I will spend more. Why Would I need a new server!? If I really need one, why am I wasting my time hunting? Keep on note that Tartarus reached 30 players online yesterday, according to Kuuro and that there was a battle in Culthan between 2 teams, where Pauzaum died, dunno if someone else died. Baltas, ![]() E D I T: Quoting Baltas: As I understand your point of pvp-e is to have unlimited frag. Tell me how many frags did you take in last 6months on people higher lvl than 40? I am pretty sure it wouldnt be more than the limit for a ban (having in mind you can pay red name any time you want). Again, you are wrong without not even having a clue about what you're saying. I've killed a lot.So did Sourixa. For example, last year a war started against me because a lvl 59 came into my spawn and didnt wanna leave. I headshot him(Shado) and got my spawn back :D But then he called his 999999 teammates and I had only mana vials, so I teleported back to town and didn't fight that day anymore. Dude, even Agger(King Sid) witnessed battles, since even tho he plays Elysium, he lvled a character and had a pvp situation where me and him were hunting Ice Golems and 3 lvl 50s came to kill him...we rolled them LOL 39 Rogue+71~ Barbarian VS 54 Rogue(Shado) + 52 Warlock(Gap) +50 Pyromancer(Montagam) and they got pwned. You can watch a video with some of the war battles here Zezenia War - Br Banana Banana on Tartarus About the redname system, I am sorry for the expression, but I ain't paying for shit. If tartarus was merged into Platon I'd most surely quit. I've played Platon on my lv 33 Warlock during the Dark Side VS White Side war, took redname, had to pay 150k to get rid of it and again in less than 24 hours I was already redname again. I just quit and went back to Tartarus. This is RETARDED. |
Baltas Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 362
Mage
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24th February 2014 12:14:48
You are about to start a flame war, don't you? You are stating new facts, which has nothing to do with the start of our conversation, even tho, gonna answer this time.
Maybe Tartarus reached 30people yesterday and one guy died. But why you even mentioned that? What did it change? Platon had 110 people online yesterday, Tipitaka (I saw 46people online, wasnt catching max number). But once again, why we are talking about that? Peak says nothing, but short term players. as I personally didnt see 30people in tartarus since the long time. But that wasnt the point. You say you are thinking about reaven and someone else. Reaven also exped many characters: Reaven, Rejven, Ruell, Brzenczyszczykiewicz, True Polak, Insane Magician, Diodorus, Anvi, Etu, Kiepsky, Blask, Unknown Soldier, Reaven Here, Kolejorz, Shmeck, Jurek Wyrwisznurek, Semsibille Hell, Wlodziu, Bragga, Tik Tak, Universal Soldier, Reaven Magician, Kaniek, Syndrom, Bonus, Globetrotter Grover, Codys Leon, Bongus, Iden, GrubSonn, Przemasko, Sue Mea, Pisak, Alexander, Pars Levus and many more characters which are hard to memorise. Maybe he also likes to exp? You also say I only care about myself. You know, you know nothing about my mind. At my post I mentioned brs, who are about to run away from Kurt team. Also I was taking for every european who lags in usa servers. And its really hard to play in laggy server when you never lagged. And your proposal which would benefit reaven, alinor doomsday and few more people who wants to play once a week to fight. You know what, I am thinking way wider than you do. I am thinking about things which wouldnt only benefit me, which would benefit a great amount of people, would leave as little as possible disappointed people and wouldn't slow down k-z incomes as I know this project must be profitable to keep track on. |
The Warlockk Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 190
Mage
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24th February 2014 12:19:51
I didn't wanna start a flame war and what I said about you only thinking about yourself is about your statement related to this subject.
If it's about the lag or about the war situation, I don't care, you are still defending your own interests: not having a merge Tipitaka>Platon. I play with 140ms of latency on American servers and I'm not complaining about it. It's a matter of getting used to it. Even because it's not Tibia, where you walk 1sqm-stop, walk 1sqm-stop, walk 1sqm-stop, walk 1sqm-stop, (..) On Zezenia the lag is barely noticeable. The Brazilians are playing Tipitaka with 250ms latency ping average, why wouldnt you europeans wanna play with less than 170-ms latency of ping in Platon? |
Baltas Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 362
Mage
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24th February 2014 12:33:39 (Last edited 24th February 2014 12:59:45)
after your last post I got enough of you. Gonna take a break after the last sarcastic answer, which would help you to understand what I think about u right now.
I play with 140ms of latency on American servers and I'm not complaining about it. It's a matter of getting used to it. The Brazilians are playing Tipitaka with 250ms latency ping average, why wouldnt you europeans wanna play with less than 170-ms latency of ping in Platon? Some people play none pvp, so you should try it. You will get used to it. Some africans can eat every second day a little meal. Which a little amount of water. If they can, why do u eat so much. Sounds retarded, don't you think? |
The Warlockk Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 190
Mage
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24th February 2014 12:37:48 (Last edited 24th February 2014 12:39:06)
Since you asked: I think YOU are retarded LOL, but let's keep on thread!
2 questions: - 1: Why europeans cant play on a Platon having 170- latency when Brazilians that had 140~ latency on Platon left that server to play Tipitaka with 230~250 latency AND are happy with it? - 2: Have you ever thought about the damages that the 30~60+ players from a pvp enforced server can do on a PvP server? the random Pks, the unjustified kills vs the players that play in peace and do not like to die. How many players could stop playing eventually because of the random pks caused byu players that are used to a PvP-E server without any kill limitations? Waiting for your intelectual and very smart answers, mr Einstein :) |
Robert Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 133
Warrior
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24th February 2014 14:16:00 (Last edited 24th February 2014 14:17:24) Quoting The Warlockk: - 1: Why europeans cant play on a Platon having 170- latency when Brazilians that had 140~ latency on Platon left that server to play Tipitaka with 230~250 latency AND are happy with it? Why can some people play Battlefield 4 in 30fps and be happy with it and some need a minimum of 60fps. For some it's enough for some it isn't it's not harder to understand then that, if someone is used to something better the affect of change to the worse is more noticeable then for someone who are used to worse. Same goes for a lot of computer related stuff from monitors and resolutions/monitor panels to mechanical keyboards vs rubber dome. I for one can not stand rubber dome keyboards anymore so I woulden't get one, it's really individual and why would anyone want to change for the worse? I can make many examples from everyones every day life showing the same. |