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Valos
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Elysium
Level 181
Warrior
4th February 2012 01:08:28

Quoting Snirfman:
The basis of this post is what? That paladins are OP? Luulz everyone know this.


Most do, that is true. But if you hadn't noticed, people here also compare stuff, which is really useful for balancing the classes.
Hidden Warrior
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Tipitaka
Level 31
Warrior
4th February 2012 01:15:34

Well, as a barb. Take for instance, my first barb spell that I get, Primal Scream - 75 mp, basically useless, as it just makes PVP have to RECLICK you, and then it even has a while cool down... My second spell, Barbarious Instinct - 220mp, which means I can't even use it until level 45 I think... Then Kilter, which is Mlvl 9 costs 160mp... Which is cool but won't get mlvl 9 until around 45 skills~ Then Frenzy and RoF... Which I have no idea on at all...

Paladin, has greater healing already at level 30 that costs what? 50 mp? They have heal other, etc, etc...

The bottom line is no matter what is compared, you have to wait for the update to happen before you do anything, so I see this post is basically a waste of space, as I'm sure Hyuga and Zod already know what it up and have plans on fixing it...
Baltas
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Pharos
Level 362
Mage
4th February 2012 06:45:17

Quoting Snirfman:
Well, as a barb. Take for instance, my first barb spell that I get, Primal Scream - 75 mp, basically useless, as it just makes PVP have to RECLICK you, and then it even has a while cool down... My second spell, Barbarious Instinct - 220mp, which means I can't even use it until level 45 I think... Then Kilter, which is Mlvl 9 costs 160mp... Which is cool but won't get mlvl 9 until around 45 skills~ Then Frenzy and RoF... Which I have no idea on at all...

Paladin, has greater healing already at level 30 that costs what? 50 mp? They have heal other, etc, etc...

The bottom line is no matter what is compared, you have to wait for the update to happen before you do anything, so I see this post is basically a waste of space, as I'm sure Hyuga and Zod already know what it up and have plans on fixing it...

That's the problem, players think staff know all. They don't play this game and they might miss unbalances. And ye, barbarian is more useful for pvp. Frenzy will be useful in hunts, just so u know. Primal Scream - 75 mp extremely useful in pvp (s it just makes PVP have to RECLICK you)??? makes me laugh
Gonna post some more later today, gtg
Cheers
Wielkopolski
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Elysium
Level 103
Ranger
4th February 2012 07:00:05

Quoting Baltas:

That's the problem, players think staff know all. They don't play this game and they might miss unbalances. And ye, barbarian is more useful for pvp. Frenzy will be useful in hunts, just so u know. Primal Scream - 75 mp extremely useful in pvp (s it just makes PVP have to RECLICK you)??? makes me laugh
Gonna post some more later today, gtg
Cheers


That is why is up to players to make good proposals, sadly most proposals are either useless or just incomplete, like they just point the obvious but never point a solution, or if they give some sort of solution most of times it's ridiculous and also players flame it instead of trying to improve it or something like that.

What I think it should be good to all those spells that make players loose target would be that they also worked on monsters, and maybe that on players gave a lock to the targets (1~2 secs most) that they couldn't target anything, and in rouges case that players couldn't target it.
Vee
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Pharos
Level 92
Mage
4th February 2012 08:14:14

Quoting Baltas:
Primal Scream - 75 mp extremely useful in pvp (s it just makes PVP have to RECLICK you)??? makes me laugh
Gonna post some more later today, gtg
Cheers



And that's why you make me feel hopeless with you. You just see 2 things attack and health. More I hit, more I kill, more hp I have, better I survive. And then you miss everything else. Speed, ground, people's placements, other people's reactions, and just all shit. Not everything is black and white. There's also colours called blue, red, yellow and shitloads of others.
Rzucajacy Spirami
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Elysium
Level 64
Mage
4th February 2012 09:44:48

Quoting Leozinhorox:
And look, you're talking about a non-pvp server, which is totally different.


I made a warrior there and was able to train 2 days in a row w/o loging out and healing ( coz some1 was healing me), 15s from depot. Find me place and ppl to do it on Tipitaka. Its so easy and fun to make warrior there:)

Ps: not playing anymore there :P
Baltas
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Pharos
Level 362
Mage
4th February 2012 18:25:13

Quoting Wielkopolski:
Quoting Baltas:

That's the problem, players think staff know all. They don't play this game and they might miss unbalances. And ye, barbarian is more useful for pvp. Frenzy will be useful in hunts, just so u know. Primal Scream - 75 mp extremely useful in pvp (s it just makes PVP have to RECLICK you)??? makes me laugh
Gonna post some more later today, gtg
Cheers


That is why is up to players to make good proposals, sadly most proposals are either useless or just incomplete, like they just point the obvious but never point a solution, or if they give some sort of solution most of times it's ridiculous and also players flame it instead of trying to improve it or something like that.

What I think it should be good to all those spells that make players loose target would be that they also worked on monsters, and maybe that on players gave a lock to the targets (1~2 secs most) that they couldn't target anything, and in rouges case that players couldn't target it.


I believe u always get at least a second, until u get atacked again. Could u please, criticize my thread >>http://www.zezeniaonline.com/forum/thread/5388.html
I find your opinion useful. Dunno if it was so obvious what i posted there, but not much i can offer. The only thing should be changed is formulas in my point of view
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