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First Brother Player
Pharos
Level 160
Mage
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6th February 2012 19:36:52
Wielkopolski: Weird you always gotta come in threads and talk like that, this is not a good idea blablabla. Come on, can you really come with a better idea than this? This is a really great proposal, and as you can see, like 90% of guys who posted here agreed with this.
Let us have some fun, aye? |
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Vee Player
Pharos
Level 92
Mage
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6th February 2012 19:53:21 (Last edited 6th February 2012 19:58:21) Quoting Wielkopolski: Quoting Vee: New commers get pked so often, because there is in normal servers people like us. We like to kill, I could say I'm even addicted to kill. When there isn't enough "bad guys" to kill, it's easy to fall on random pking. But, if there is a server where you can just kill and kill, normal servers will be more peaceful. And if you are newcommer, what do you think? Do you choose hardcore pvp for first server? I doubt. There would be just so much less power abusing threads, I bet. Also, do you think there will be just one guild ruling all the time? I bet there would be changing leading guild all the time. Atleast what I know Tipitaka, one guild wouldn't survive for long in lead. E: I would like to see poll about it atleast, to know how many are intrested. E2: And saying pvp isn't balanced is just an excuse. The fact is, pvp is never rly balanced, but in other hand it is always. Because we all have the same chance to start when server starts. And we all have the same chance to choose the class which we think is the best. And I bet, we still have each classes there more or less. So like I said is the community fault that a server is so empty, and this server wouldn't be for new players, would be for experienced players since it's a full PvP, so no new commoner can just go there first. And remember that there is a spell update coming, which will probably take some time to get the spells ready, and what I mean with PvP not been balanced, is that everyone is complaining about Warriors defense, people complain about Shamans dmg, and Pyro's buff, and let's be honest, everyone in this server is going to be a mage, why? Because is the easiest way to start and strongest, if things were clearly balanced (or at least a bit better), mages would be like the hardest to start. You said that people like you like to kill. Yes, you would do that on the new server if there was one, but let's be serious, all of you would also go back to the old servers here and there just to annoy and kill people for fun, resulting in even more of that because you wouldn't need to care that much about your character there. So once again, this server is not really a good idea to bring more players, or to get more incomes. If we raise the exp table to 1.5 like some people have proposaled, I bet there would also be playing more finnish people in that server than just me and our new back up Phill Mason +some random or not that random people who rarely manage over 30lvl. The thing is, that kind of server brings people who have used to play ots. That might not be what you are mainly looking for because people like them rarely stays long, but, when they are at one server they come and go and come again, they keep population up and server up. And after all, customer is customer. And just because your way to play is different, doesn't mean all other ways are wrong. You said that people like you like to kill. Yes, you would do that on the new server if there was one, but let's be serious, all of you would also go back to the old servers here and there just to annoy and kill people for fun, resulting in even more of that because you wouldn't need to care that much about your character there. And that part is just full of bullshit. There might be some random pking, but after all, when you don't play at server, you don't care about it. What I example visit at platon, is like once in 2 weeks-month. I make there 1-6 kill totally per visit. Now, let's take a look what it is at tipitaka. It's like 10-30 kills per week. When you don't care the server, you mostly likely don't make effort to login. About balances. So what if most people take mages? That just gives even more value to have warriors and rangers in team. And what I see funny here is that you mention mages and especially pyro. Because when I think the server, I would mostly like go for rogue or warlock. Maybe also barbarian. |
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Vayu Player
Platon
Level 50
Mage
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6th February 2012 20:01:20 Quoting Vee: Quoting Wielkopolski: Quoting Vee: New commers get pked so often, because there is in normal servers people like us. We like to kill, I could say I'm even addicted to kill. When there isn't enough "bad guys" to kill, it's easy to fall on random pking. But, if there is a server where you can just kill and kill, normal servers will be more peaceful. And if you are newcommer, what do you think? Do you choose hardcore pvp for first server? I doubt. There would be just so much less power abusing threads, I bet. Also, do you think there will be just one guild ruling all the time? I bet there would be changing leading guild all the time. Atleast what I know Tipitaka, one guild wouldn't survive for long in lead. E: I would like to see poll about it atleast, to know how many are intrested. E2: And saying pvp isn't balanced is just an excuse. The fact is, pvp is never rly balanced, but in other hand it is always. Because we all have the same chance to start when server starts. And we all have the same chance to choose the class which we think is the best. And I bet, we still have each classes there more or less. So like I said is the community fault that a server is so empty, and this server wouldn't be for new players, would be for experienced players since it's a full PvP, so no new commoner can just go there first. And remember that there is a spell update coming, which will probably take some time to get the spells ready, and what I mean with PvP not been balanced, is that everyone is complaining about Warriors defense, people complain about Shamans dmg, and Pyro's buff, and let's be honest, everyone in this server is going to be a mage, why? Because is the easiest way to start and strongest, if things were clearly balanced (or at least a bit better), mages would be like the hardest to start. You said that people like you like to kill. Yes, you would do that on the new server if there was one, but let's be serious, all of you would also go back to the old servers here and there just to annoy and kill people for fun, resulting in even more of that because you wouldn't need to care that much about your character there. So once again, this server is not really a good idea to bring more players, or to get more incomes. If we raise the exp table to 1.5 like some people have proposaled, I bet there would also be playing more finnish people in that server than just me and our new back up Phill Mason +some random or not that random people who rarely manage over 30lvl. The thing is, that kind of server brings people who have used to play ots. That might not be what you are mainly looking for because people like them rarely stays long, but, when they are at one server they come and go and come again, they keep population up and server up. And after all, customer is customer. And just because your way to play is different, doesn't mean all other ways are wrong. You said that people like you like to kill. Yes, you would do that on the new server if there was one, but let's be serious, all of you would also go back to the old servers here and there just to annoy and kill people for fun, resulting in even more of that because you wouldn't need to care that much about your character there. And that part is just full of bullshit. There might be some random pking, but after all, when you don't play at server, you don't care about it. What I example visit at platon, is like once in 2 weeks-month. I make there 1-6 kill totally per visit. Now, let's take a look what it is at tipitaka. It's like 10-30 kills per week. When you don't care the server, you mostly likely don't make effort to login. About balances. So what if most people take mages? That just gives even more value to have warriors and rangers in team. And what I see funny here is that you mention mages and especially pyro. Because when I think the server, I would mostly like go for rogue or warlock. Maybe also barbarian. I would never pick mage as my first class. My first pick would be warrior. If you have the cash directly out of Sank to raise a mage, then there is something wrong. Warriors would raise much faster than mages. |
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Wielkopolski Player
Elysium
Level 103
Ranger
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6th February 2012 20:07:16
You guys are missing the point, the idea is good, even Hyuga said he would like a server like this long ago, so is not actually a proposal.
But the time is not the best, why the Staff should waste more cash in another server? They are not even getting paid so far, and I think is time for them to start getting paid or hire some more help instead of another server. |
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First Brother Player
Pharos
Level 160
Mage
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6th February 2012 23:03:25
So now it's a good idea, or what, Wielko? Well, they could make a non-pvp server.. can't be so hard to add a hardcore pvp server as well.
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Wielkopolski Player
Elysium
Level 103
Ranger
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6th February 2012 23:08:13 Quoting The Thug: So now it's a good idea, or what, Wielko? Well, they could make a non-pvp server.. can't be so hard to add a hardcore pvp server as well. Ok this will be the last time I say this, hope you an understand it. Servers cost money, so having a new server is a new cost for the Staff, and this type of server is not actually the best idea for new players in the game, is mostly for more experimented players, so the reason why the created a non-pvp server is that we used to have one already, and it was need it to stop all the PA/PK threads. So right now, it would be a better idea to waste money in advertise, than in a new server. |
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Valos Player
Elysium
Level 181
Warrior
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6th February 2012 23:14:28
The question you have to ask is if this PvP-E server will generate a lot of interest for potentionally new players, so that we eventually get more players instead of players just moving from server to server. I think there is, but the point is, can Zezenia manage that financially, because if they could, they could take that risk.
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Vayu Player
Platon
Level 50
Mage
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7th February 2012 08:37:34
So basically what you're saying is the PVP server will be up next month?
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Heltflippad Player
Platon
Level 50
Warrior
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7th February 2012 09:35:53
Signed!
Would be awesome :)! |
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Valos Player
Elysium
Level 181
Warrior
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7th February 2012 18:11:23 Quoting Vayu: So basically what you're saying is the PVP server will be up next month? If you were responding to me: that could be. Depends on if they can and are willing to take that risk. But, looking at Tibia, they only have 2 PvP-E worlds out of 77 worlds, and those are barely populated in comparison with non-PvP servers. So I draw the following conclusion: this PvP-E world will be populated because of people moving from servers and not really by newcomers. Instead, the staff should set another non-PvP server up, this time hosted in Europe. This would be way more attractive to them financially. |