Well I have a proposal for skills. Nowadays for up def you just need to use a weapon, dont even need to use a shield.

I think the right thing to do is, need weapon just for meelee, and by using a shield it would grow your def.

Nowadays mages for example, if you never train you will have always def 1, because shield + wand dont grow def. It would be much better if your def grow, only if you using a shield. So mages would grow their def too.

The other thing is, training with monsters. Why training system is different for monsters? I think skills should grow with monsters, like they grow with players. A guy with 70/70 wont always find someone to train, and he could easily train with gbs for example.

You got 1 point that i'm agreed with, i'm a mage so i can say that i don't really need to train since it's not my job tanking or what so ever. But as you said not always people have someone to train, so there's gotta be some way to train and that way could be using monster! Also this monster should have some kind of healing ability or a way to kinda clone them self's, also another cool way could be like be able to buy a pet training, this monster would have the ability of hiting you with % chance = training your shield and also you had the % of hitting him to train your melee.

Actually you can train with monsters, but you need to re-target them every max 30 seconds.

proposal for staff: put more time like 5 minutes to re - target, or vanishes the time.

mages: It's a good idea, but i don't know if it's really necessary.

I'd say it might be about time to completely remove the necessary change of target when training with monsters.

Talking about skills...why not a fishing skill?

I wont say it's a good idea but the needing of changing target on monster's it to prevent the botting, although this would be good if we are talking about some kind of training ground. The idea of changing target's it simply to like input the idea of " you gotta be watching over your character to prevent him from dieing and also to click on the new target to keep your training ongoing" Although this might not be as good as i say since now a days bots make everything!

The problem is that the wrong people are getting disadvantaged in your scenario. I can always find a player to use any tool on that automatically watches over me, but the ones who don't know other people are most likely the ones who have to train on monsters, namely newcomers - which is why I rather have them stay and make it just as easy for them to train as for people training on other people rather than have them leave; if they macro, they'll pay the bill eventually, anyway.

Yeah when we speak training on monsters we are talking about the newcomers and eventually people that doesn't play that much or even that they don't got as much people as they like to invite them to train.
With in your point ot view yes the idea of no more changing targets would be nice, making it easiest to the ones that are newcomers or that don't got as much people in there friend list. My situation was pointed in the wrong direction, since i was thinking that with what i said there would be no more one player training on another.

I say it could be the same way with monsters as it is with players, blood hit every ammount of seconds should do it.

Of course this is the right way to be. The just thing you need is to blood hit and be hited, doesnt matter if its as monters or player.