In my opinion Shaman buff should stay around same 375 mana, 180 sec duration, 40% health increase and x mana decrease. Shaman's dmg should be decreased around hmm, 10% what it is now. So, when you combo 900, it should be 810 anymore. (still quite much, but since 150~ comes from adv soul fire, it's okay imo). Warlocks buff should either stay in same with 250 mana, 150 sec duration and 20% protection, or change to 25-30% protection and 300-350 mana and 150 sec duration. Warlock's dmg should be same. Pyro's buff should be same 25% vanishes and 25% blocked by mana, cost 350 mana and duration 120 sec or change 20/20 vanish/block mana, cost 350 mana and 120 sec duration. Pyro's dmg should be same unless you decrease buff, then it should get bit raised up, because at the moment it's around same as warlock's dmg with curse.

all numbers which helps warlock (little shaman dmg reduction, warlock buff to 30% and pyro buff to 20/20) sounds fair and the same what i have in my mind. And since i am not really sure if pyros can make higher dmg now than shaman/warlock. I would say that if warlock at x lvl can make 1000dmg combo, shaman should make 900 and pyro 1100 at the same lvl.

Oh rly?

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@ Wielkopolski

It is 25/25

Since I stated situation and difference in many point of views, yes warlocks need some help... tell me if i am wrong

Asking to be the buff stronger then shaman for a warlock ( would be 42% if you would count it to extra hp ) + having shaman dmg less then warlock by 10% + the current amount , is just wrong
You can't have a stronger buff and stronger dmg = not balance

If we make both warlock buff raise to 30% and shaman dmg goes lower by 10%. Here what we will have.

about buff, if warlock gets 30% absorbing aura it would be 42% if you would count it to extra hp for warlock and 40% to shaman. So warlock gets 42/40= 1.05x better buff (atm its 40/25=1.6x shaman buff better)


About dmg. if warlock deals 1000dmg, shaman would do 900= 1000/900=1.1x warlock stronger.

Yep, warlock would be stronger in 1vs1 against shaman, and its supposed to be like this.

About pyro 20+20 buff = 40% which equals 66.7% (if u count as extra hp) against warlock 66.7/42=1.59x better
Dmg against warlock 1100/1000= 1.1x better

Thats why it is supposed to be Pyro>warlock>shaman

Gimme some proof which says that it's supposed to be like so?!?

Or it's just your point of view about how stuff should work, or how you would like stuff to work?

At least some question which force me to think more.

Calm and silent peaceful and friendly. This description suits almost every shaman. Their strenght is everything, but surely no brutal force. Compared to pyromancers and warlocks, their pure combat damage might seem weak, but their abilities are extremely fascinating.